Should D3V be unbanned?

D3V has promised he will change.

What else is new?

Remember this, when D3V first registered he was a KKK-promoting, racist asshole piece of shit. He now fully supports a black man running for president and he even admits he was an idiot back then. People can change their opinions and turn into something better.

Hah, D3v was never a racist asshole, nor did he promote the KKK. He was TROLLING. That's what D3v did, that's what D3v does, and that's what D3v will continue to do. He has ALWAYS been a troll.

Thanatos has the right of it in his OP - when he was first around, D3V was a racist bigot who took every chance he could get to insult others. When he returned at the end of 2007, he'd changed dramatically. in fact I can't remember a time when he's been like his old self. He cntributed an insance amount of activity, and got the Automotive forum going (which, in terms of small, specialised hobby forums, was a success). The disagreements he had with other members were, to be frank, hilarious. He was always blamed completely for the disagreements, but in truth it was halfsies with the other person, who usually provoked him and did nothing to let it die out, such as ignoring D3Vs posts. I will say that he was a complete dick with MJ/Des, though. If he does come back and starts on that again, I'll have words with him.

As stated above, D3v was trolling when he first came here. He only acted like a racist to get a rise out of people.

I don't think anyone has ever disputed the fact that D3v created a lot of activity and was a great member, when he wasn't being a complete dick. You say that D3v was always blamed when it was actually equally the other persons fault, but I disagree. That was the case a lot of the time, especially in the beginning. However, there were numerous cases where people would attempt to ignore D3v and he would continue pressing their buttons. It almost seemed like ignoring him just made him try harder.

I'm yet to see solid evidence that D3V drove Grav off. It's said that he 'scared' him by digging up info on him, but then people have said that Grav simply got bored of talking on forums, and left to experience real life.

MJordan, the only person we know of that had contact with Grav after he left, told us that Grav had told him the reason that he left was because of D3v.

On top of Grav and MJordan, however, there's also Slim and MedievalBob who have both claimed they've left because of D3v in the past.

Well, put him on a temp unban first, like a trial unbanning. After two weeks, he'll earn another 4, and so forth. I say unban him, he's a good poster.

Here's what I suggest:

Someone vouch for D3v. Thanatos, most likely. When D3v comes back and eventually gets banned again, Thanatos does as well. If you've really got faith that D3v has changed, put your money where your mouth is and show it.

And if MJ left because of D3V, why hasn't MJ come back? D3V has been gone for months and I'm sure somebody has contacted MJ telling him D3V is gone. Where is he?

MJ is unable to return because of IRL problems that D3v caused to become worse. MJ had to have his name changed because of his IRL problems, and D3v went out of his way to make it obvious to any outside visitor that "Desmethones" was MJordan. This got MJordan into some sort of IRL trouble that has caused him to be unable to return.

It should be stated that MJordan was AGAINST banned D3v when talks of permanently banning D3v were happening. D3v would have been permanently banned earlier than he was if it hadn't been for MJordan. D3v just so happened to pick the one person keeping him from being banned to piss off.