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Posted 2015-03-09, 02:13 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "This is a fair criticism. However, I..."
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However, whether or not you believe in God (once context is established to address your above point) seems to have a dichotomous answer set. "I don't know," doesn't answer the question, because the question isn't about what you know, it's about what you believe.
I don't believe one way or the other. I don't know summarizes that up quite well, I do believe.

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Therefore, unless you can truthfully answer that question with a "yes," you're not a believer.
How come this only applies to theism? I believe that the concept of God is equal as it is to not being believable. If it is abstinence from the so-called vote then, yes, I would subscribe to being an atheist. But I don't feel that it does. There is no singular person who defines these theories.

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Therefore, based on my above paragraph, you do not believe in the God concept, because by definition someone who is 50/50 on the veracity of a concept does not believe in that concept. To believe that a concept is true you must be at least 51/49 in favor of it given integer percentages
As I've said, I would actually claim 51/49 in lieu of believing that a higher entity, deity, being probably does exist - but we will never know. But I do not want to claim being theistic, or atheistic.

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It gets rid of all the baggage associated with real-world issues, and forces you to confront the logic of your argument directly
I've been thinking about the concept of God since I was a child. It's kept me awake at night, dreaming about endless possibilities and hypotheticals that I will never be able to prove. And that exact thought process is what leads me to believe that I may never know, and probably will not ever know - because our logic is irrelevant to something that is impossible to understand.

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Russell teapot theory
His nice logical puns, and quirks/parodies are a good read. But none of that matters to me - because greater questions seem important to me and everything is plausible until proven otherwise.

How did the Universe come from the big bang? We can measure it back quite accurately - or so astrophysicists say - and we can get it to a tiny, exponentially dense ball of energy/matter that explodes. Okay. But where did that come from? What happened before the big bang? What happened before time came into existence? I feel focusing on theism or atheism is a waste of time is all. I don't care about my label.

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Yes! As do the mindless inter-religion and intra-religion theological debates that are far more commonplace.
Exactly, it's just the same as Atheists trying to convert people on a title that is irrelevant to the greater quandaries of our existence. The existence of everything.

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The only reason mathematics seems paradoxical is because we know it to be a creation of the human mind, yet is has proven itself to also describe the universe. If God could prove himself to apply to the universe just as blatantly, then I would buy your analogy.
Well, what if God doesn't apply to the universe. What if they operate under totally different variables. What if mathematics that make sense within our dimension, realm, whatever you want to call it - don't apply somewhere that is outside our realm. Or stretch of time, or space - no matter what you want to call it.














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