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Posted 2008-08-26, 11:18 AM in reply to KagomJack's post starting "I always hear that illegal immigrants..."
KagomJack said: [Goto]
I always hear that illegal immigrants kill more people than non-illegal imigrants and citizens.

People just have nothing better to do than to make shit up.
Which is exactly further from the truth. Illegal aliens hardly commit any crime at all, compared with regular 'ole citizens home-grown here in the RED WHITE AND BLUE!...














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Posted 2008-08-26, 11:25 AM in reply to D3V's post starting "Which is exactly further from the..."
Crime Statistics.

95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens.
86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are for illegal aliens.
75% of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.
24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
29% (630,000) convicted illegal alien felons fill our state and federal prisons at a cost of $1.6 billion annually.
53% plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.
50% plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens from south of the border.
71% plus of all apprehended cars stolen in 2005 in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California were stolen by Illegal aliens or “transport coyotes".
47% of cited/stopped drivers in California have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 47%, 92% are illegal aliens.
63% of cited/stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 63%, 97% are illegal aliens.
66% of cited/stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66%, 98% are illegal.

Source: http://www.texasborderregulators.org...nt/view/15/38/
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Posted 2008-08-26, 11:32 AM in reply to Kazilla's post starting "Crime Statistics. 95% of warrants..."
I love articles that link to a bunch of statistics with no reference. I call bullshit on that website you linked. Even so, look at what cities are being targeted, high murder rate in LA, I know there is no way 95% of them are "illegal aliens".














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Posted 2008-08-26, 11:36 AM in reply to D3V's post starting "I love articles that link to a bunch of..."
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I love articles that link to a bunch of statistics with no reference. I call bullshit on that website you linked. I know there is no way 95% of them are "illegal aliens".
I love articles that link to a bunch of statistics with no reference. I call bullshit on your latest post
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Posted 2008-08-26, 12:16 PM in reply to Kazilla's post starting "I love articles that link to a bunch of..."
Kazilla said: [Goto]
I love articles that link to a bunch of statistics with no reference. I call bullshit on your latest post
You're the one making a claim. The burden of proof lies with you. You're claming something that's highly unlikely, and using an anti-immigration website as a source.
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Posted 2008-08-26, 12:19 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "You're the one making a claim. The..."
That's like trying to explain the benefits for the enviorment of off-shore drilling using an Exxon mobile website.














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Posted 2008-08-26, 11:43 AM in reply to D3V's post starting "I love articles that link to a bunch of..."
Actually, it claims 95% of warrents. That only proves biased judges.
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Posted 2008-08-26, 11:51 AM in reply to WetWired's post starting "Actually, it claims 95% of warrents. ..."
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Actually, it claims 95% of warrents. That only proves biased judges.
Yes that too, or they can't find the real criminals so they place the blame on "illegals".














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Posted 2008-08-26, 12:09 PM in reply to Kazilla's post starting "Crime Statistics. 95% of warrants..."
Kazilla said: [Goto]
Crime Statistics.

95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens.
86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are for illegal aliens.
75% of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.
24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
29% (630,000) convicted illegal alien felons fill our state and federal prisons at a cost of $1.6 billion annually.
53% plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.
50% plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens from south of the border.
71% plus of all apprehended cars stolen in 2005 in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California were stolen by Illegal aliens or “transport coyotes".
47% of cited/stopped drivers in California have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 47%, 92% are illegal aliens.
63% of cited/stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 63%, 97% are illegal aliens.
66% of cited/stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66%, 98% are illegal.

Source: http://www.texasborderregulators.org...nt/view/15/38/

Here, let me fix this for you. You seemed to not want to show your source very clearly.


Kazilla said: [Goto]
Crime Statistics.

95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens.
86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are for illegal aliens.
75% of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.
24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
29% (630,000) convicted illegal alien felons fill our state and federal prisons at a cost of $1.6 billion annually.
53% plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.
50% plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens from south of the border.
71% plus of all apprehended cars stolen in 2005 in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California were stolen by Illegal aliens or “transport coyotes".
47% of cited/stopped drivers in California have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 47%, 92% are illegal aliens.
63% of cited/stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 63%, 97% are illegal aliens.
66% of cited/stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66%, 98% are illegal.

Source: http://www.texasborderregulators.org...nt/view/15/38/
Here, try this one on for size instead.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=5009270

The Article said:
Non-U.S. citizens accounted for nearly 8 percent of the jail population at midyear 2007, the new Justice Department report noted.
Nearly, but less than, 8%. Found in 2 minutes of google searching (would have been quicker, but I had to sift through all of the propaganda websites and garbage to find a credible source.)
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Posted 2008-08-26, 12:11 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Here, let me fix this for you. You..."
There, I trust that source more.














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Posted 2008-08-26, 12:20 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "There, I trust that source more."
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There, I trust that source more.
Honestly, even that source was showing some bias against illegal immigrants.

There's so much covert bias in the media these days, but you really don't notice it unless you know what to look for. For instance, they said "nearly 8%", which is a biased way of saying it. I could say the same exact thing, "less than 8%," and you get a completely different message from it.

Ever notice how if there's an article about a murder or something, they only ever specify the race/gender of the murderer if it's not a white male. They'll specify "murdered by a hispanic man" but if it's a white man they will usually say "murdered by a man."
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Posted 2008-08-26, 12:24 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Honestly, even that source was showing..."
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Honestly, even that source was showing some bias against illegal immigrants.

There's so much covert bias in the media these days, but you really don't notice it unless you know what to look for. For instance, they said "nearly 8%", which is a biased way of saying it. I could say the same exact thing, "less than 8%," and you get a completely different message from it.

Ever notice how if there's an article about a murder or something, they only ever specify the race/gender of the murderer if it's not a white male. They'll specify "murdered by a hispanic man" but if it's a white man they will usually say "murdered by a man."
I think your demographics, mainly where you live could impact this a bunch. I've noticed it a TON living here in Florida, and yes it's pretty pitiful how the media covers, well anything these days. Living with Biased opinions is a part of life though, it is worst though that National media news networks put it into their stories, namely Fox News.














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Posted 2008-08-26, 12:32 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "I think your demographics, mainly where..."
The point is, nothing in the article KA originally posted points towards false. When you read it everything sounds like it could happen.
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Posted 2008-08-26, 12:43 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "I think your demographics, mainly where..."
D3V said: [Goto]
I think your demographics, mainly where you live could impact this a bunch. I've noticed it a TON living here in Florida, and yes it's pretty pitiful how the media covers, well anything these days. Living with Biased opinions is a part of life though, it is worst though that National media news networks put it into their stories, namely Fox News.
I'm not even really referring to stuff like Fox News bias. The people who say biased things like I'm talking about usually don't even realize they're doing it. They're not intentionally saying things in a biased way. You can even find articles by women that say biased things about women, and they don't even realize it.
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