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Posted 2008-03-27, 09:01 PM in reply to Adrenachrome's post starting "A Racist believes that geneticly one..."
I see, I'll be sure to use the correct phrasing in the future. I just don't expect anyone else around me will, because the common usage of 'racist' is more or less the definition of bigotry.
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Posted 2008-03-27, 09:03 PM in reply to Grav's post starting "I see, I'll be sure to use the correct..."
Well you could of course just call any disagreement I may have with liberal views, racist views. Which seems to be the case quite often these days.

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Posted 2008-03-27, 09:04 PM in reply to Adrenachrome's post starting "Well you could of course just call any..."
So you are a racist!
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Posted 2008-03-27, 09:08 PM in reply to Grav's post starting "So you are a racist!"
lol well yes, in that context I believe I am just over 50% racist.

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Posted 2008-03-27, 09:33 PM in reply to Adrenachrome's post starting "lol well yes, in that context I believe..."
I'm about 35% 'racist/bigot'. I am just annoyed by.. "Monkeys" (NOT blacks, you know the difference between blacks and 'niggas', right?) at school. It's just fucking rediculous.

However, Look at most sports, Black people ARE genetically better than whites. HAHA my friend just changed my wallpaper & home page to Nazi stuff. The Nazi website and some pic that says "WHITE POWER!" and has the swastika in the middle.
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Posted 2008-03-27, 09:53 PM in reply to Adrenachrome's post starting "lol well yes, in that context I believe..."
If we're being purely semantic, the term racism covers both definitions. It may refer to someone who adheres to the doctrine that inherent differences between the races exist rendering one race superior to the others. It can also mean simple bigotry. Neither definition is wrong, and colloquially the latter is far more common.

And anyone who thinks racism is dead is blind. I have been spit and slurred at from a truck on a university campus. I have been denied service at a local restaurant, with incontrovertible evidence that it was due to the color of my skin. These are not isolated instances, though these are the two most conspicuous experiences that I can recall at my university. Subtler forms of racism are so frequent that they are simply prosaic. Though racism may not be a novel concept, it is an unnecessary affliction on humanity. The passive approach advocated by Sheerx neglects and exacerbates a serious problem. Vituperation is the only appropriate response to racism.
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Posted 2008-03-27, 10:03 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "If we're being purely semantic, the..."
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The passive approach advocated by Sheerx neglects and exacerbates a serious problem. Vituperation is the only appropriate response to racism.
I agree with this. I make it known when someone tries to slip in a stereotypical joke behind someone's back that I don't approve. It made tensions between myself and an ex-roommate a little rough, because he assumed because we were both white I would support his views..

I was at a diversity workshop (long story) and one particular student was arguing long and hard that he has to "use that language" to "communicate properly" with his constituents and the like. His argument was that because the rednecks he knows speak that way, he would be alienating them by not doing it. When it was suggested he disapprove of their behavior, he blatantly refused. And this was a supposed student leader on a college campus.
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Posted 2008-03-27, 10:13 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "If we're being purely semantic, the..."
Adrenachrome said:
Racism is dead. I have never met a racist person. I agree with you but people need to understand the difference between bigotry and racism.
You’re right it is more bigotry than it is racism.

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Vituperation is the only appropriate response to racism.
I’d have to agree with you on that but vituperation would not provide any long term solutions either.

Although we’re approaching a point where it’s embarrassing to exhibit any obvious outward showings of racism, at least hopefully, it’s like you said, a more subtle almost unconscious form of racism is inherent in a large part of the country’s population.

Education would probably be the only way to fix that.
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Posted 2008-03-28, 08:34 AM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "If we're being purely semantic, the..."
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And anyone who thinks racism is dead is blind. I have been spit and slurred at from a truck on a university campus. I have been denied service at a local restaurant, with incontrovertible evidence that it was due to the color of my skin.
Are you shitting me? Is Texas really that bad? Here in Indiana, I rarely ever see any forms of racism. I'm sure it's out there, but I barely notice it anymore. This may have to do with the fact that I work in one of the most diverse law firms in the country. We have a Diversity Committee just for this sort of thing. I was forced to go to a meeting about diversity a couple of weeks ago. This law firm is so fuckin uptight.

For example, an employee that regularly visits the copy center commented that sheperd's pie was 'ghetto'. My boss (who is black) totally took it out of context and yelled at the guy to get the hell out of the copy center. The guy apologized, said he didn't mean anything derogatory by it, and promptly left. The next day I was called into the head of HR's office to give my views on what occurred the previous day. They made it into such a big deal and the dude almost got fired for it. Fuckin ridiculous. Being overly PC is just as bad as racism itself, I think.
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Posted 2008-03-28, 09:23 AM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "Are you shitting me? Is Texas really..."
Where I'm at in Texas, I don't really see much racism. I've heard lots of complaints and jokes about Mexicans, but many of them were coming from Mexicans...
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Posted 2008-03-28, 10:13 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "If we're being purely semantic, the..."
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If we're being purely semantic, the term racism covers both definitions. It may refer to someone who adheres to the doctrine that inherent differences between the races exist rendering one race superior to the others. It can also mean simple bigotry. Neither definition is wrong, and colloquially the latter is far more common.

And anyone who thinks racism is dead is blind. I have been spit and slurred at from a truck on a university campus. I have been denied service at a local restaurant, with incontrovertible evidence that it was due to the color of my skin. These are not isolated instances, though these are the two most conspicuous experiences that I can recall at my university. Subtler forms of racism are so frequent that they are simply prosaic. Though racism may not be a novel concept, it is an unnecessary affliction on humanity. The passive approach advocated by Sheerx neglects and exacerbates a serious problem. Vituperation is the only appropriate response to racism.

Well yea, I have experienced similar situations aswell, I just thought that burger king full of black people took 15 minutes to make 2 whopper juniors and just completely squished them and absolutely buried them in mayonaise were just assholes, I didn't assume they thought they were better than me like you seem to do when someone is a dick to you.

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Posted 2008-03-28, 11:13 PM in reply to Adrenachrome's post starting "Well yea, I have experienced similar..."
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Well yea, I have experienced similar situations aswell, I just thought that burger king full of black people took 15 minutes to make 2 whopper juniors and just completely squished them and absolutely buried them in mayonaise were just assholes, I didn't assume they thought they were better than me like you seem to do when someone is a dick to you.
I think you missed the part where I said I had incontrovertible evidence that this was because of my skin color. I realize that there are inept people working at such places. This was not a case of ineptitude. This was a case of blatant discrimination.
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