Just a rant.

The reason guys like you dont get numbers is exactly that... They are like you! Fucking moron there is no law requiring guys to buy drinks for chick nor for chicks to have to repay that favor. Just fucking end yourself right now. Oh and yeah, you are a "moran" especially for continuing to buy people drinks. Fucking idiot. GG

Proxy, when your balls drop you can come find me. And i never said that I personally buy girls drinks in hope of getting laid. I buy girls drinks because i think that they are worth spending time with. I dont do it to get that number and have that booty call. On the contrary, im still a virgin. I just see what it does to all my friends and it at times seems like it can get them into trouble. And i have plenty of girl friends that say they get dressed up in low skirts and half open shirts because they dont feel like paying for drinks. They make the guys believe that there is a chance and then they just leave.

Jess, i am only 20 years old and have only been to bars and clubs where only other guys and gals my age go. I went to school with girls that thought it would be fun to wear skirts during winter. I havent seen anything other then that my whole life. I see how men treat women and it is terrible. I am not one of those guys. But this generation treats women in such a disrespectful way that it rubs off on alot more peopel then all of you have obviously seen. I witness my girlfriends all the time complain about dancing with guys at clubs because he "is not hot enough, but hell get me a drink." I always ask why they would go through it then if they are uncomfortable and they go "thats the way it is" Now, maybe thats just my group, but i also go to clubs and see 18 year olds dancing with 25 year old guys and making out with them on the dance floor. What am i suppose to think? Or how about going to parties at friends places and seeing your best friends sister stripping for beer? Its this generation and it sucks.

I am not one to do anything that would disrespect women, unless they force me into a situation where i can say something. If u think i am the type of guy that humps and dumps, your totally wrong. I am not a fucken moran as all of you like to assume, but i have seen things that you guys havent. I witnessed a stoned guy buy a drink at a bar for a girl and when he invited her back to his place, she denied and he punched her in the face and tried to make out with her. After he was arreseted for assualt, they asked him why he did it and he replied, "cause i brought her a drink!" I know that there is no rule at a bar about drink buying, but being a gentlman is a must this day and age. If u all think that i am stupid or on something, go ahead and make fun of me. I know what i have seen and i know what is out there. All of you just need to open your eyes a bit and see what some other people have seen.

Under Jess's advise a looked up a study about rape and alcohol use here is the link and it seems to be around page 25.http://www.securityoncampus.org/schools/e03021472.pdf

But like i said before, this is more of a college type report. More of what i see when i go out.

20 years old? WHOOOA good for you. You may be a year older than me but at least I'm not as ignant as you are. In your first post you made it sound as though you say they are asking for it. So if you dont want your words to be taken wrongly I suggest you think about how you word things.
Seriously. You said in your post "Well most of them ask for it" as if you are justifying your actions. Why should we believe you? Hmmm?

Have you ever had a bf Jess?

No, I haven't. Why?

And Grue, a girl shouldn't have to sleep with a guy just because he bought her a damn drink. Any guy who immediately thinks that girl+booze=nookie is a moron. IMHO it's mostly their fault for assuming as much and allowing themselves to be taken advantage of. I don't deny the fact that the girls who do it aren't to be blamed, though. I can't stand girls like that myself. But just because you go to bars where girls act like fucking whores for an ounce of alcohol doesn't mean it's the case for every girl out there. If a guy wants a lay that bad he should go get a damn prostitute.

But no one...no one ever deserves to be raped. I wouldn't even wish it on the most stuck-up manipulative bitch in the world.

20 years old? WHOOOA good for you. You may be a year older than me but at least I'm not as ignant as you are. In your first post you made it sound as though you say they are asking for it. So if you dont want your words to be taken wrongly I suggest you think about how you word things. Seriously. You said in your post "Well most of them ask for it" as if you are justifying your actions. Why should we believe you? Hmmm?

What i should have said to make it more clear is that they give out a false view of their actions to us which in return leads to bad things. Basically, if you dont want to be a victim, make your actions clear. Thats all i am trying to get out. I am sure that all guys will apprectiate it more and will even buy you more drinks for being upfornt with us. If you can get a guy to buy you a drink, say thanks, and then just be done with it. DOnt sit there, rub his arm, giggle at all the corny lines and then be like ill be right back, and never come back. It wont be you that gets hurt, but the next person that comes over, when the guy is intoxicated and very upset. I didnt mean to use the words ask for it. Poor choice of words on my part.

You're acting like you've been to war or something. We haven't seen as much as you... wow, it's a fucking bar with drunk people doing stupid shit. That is really hardcore, grusome. It's fucking bar ethics. If you don't like it, don't go to the fucking bars! I always thought a bar was the worst place to try and pick someone up... everyone there is out to deceive.