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Posted 2005-01-09, 12:19 AM in reply to Titusfied's post starting "Sephiroth does not have three forms. ..."
Well when I think of Sephrioth I think of him fighting while being controlled by Jenova. However if the fight is just Sephiroth against Kuja without help from Jenova then I could see things easily pull into the favor of the Genome.
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Posted 2005-01-09, 09:32 AM in reply to The Main Man's post starting "Well when I think of Sephrioth I think..."
Sephiroth without Jenova is actually better. Given Jenova's strength, power and wisdom, but lacking her control, Sephiroth is deadly.

Kuja could still win though. Not fast, but like I said, if he simply repels Sephiroth with powerful magic, he cannot be beat. Still, Sephiroth has a large chance of getting near Kuja and decapitating him. Kuja has Ultima and Flare Star, but Sephiroth appears to be able to fly and teleport. Using a destructive spell like one of thos very near his own person could result in a Double KO.

I'm backing Kuja, but I can argue myself all I like. That's not the point of this battle. Someone else post a good, lengthy battle plan for Sephiroth.

P.S. Don't call him a Genome. I doubt he likes being lumped in with mindless beings...thatt includes Zidane.
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Posted 2005-01-09, 12:36 PM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post starting "Sephiroth without Jenova is actually..."
look the way I see it is sephiroth is going to use wall, a crap load which gaurds against the majority of Kujas attacks. So, Kuja with his cocky attitude, is gonna get tired of loosing, use ultima, destroy the planet along with him and sephiroth, resulting in a double K.O.
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Posted 2005-01-09, 04:14 PM in reply to savagebob's post starting "look the way I see it is sephiroth is..."
He's not the suicidal type. He wanted to murder everyone and obliterate all existence, but killing himself is not on his mind.
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Posted 2005-01-09, 04:24 PM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post starting "He's not the suicidal type. He wanted..."
Sephiroth was not controlled by Jenova, at least not from what I can remember. He had Jenova Cells in him which game him all the power. The Jenova cells were injected to create another weapon for Shin-Ra. Did it work? Sorta. He was just a crazed person trying to make his mommy happy. Just say, "Hey, Seph, He's talkin' crap about your mom!" and he'd do what any crazed lunatic would do. Kill him. And his 3 forms easily beats out Kuja's 2. And besides, Trance is just like a Limit. It just gives him temporary power when he has been abused so much. Sephiroth actually had 3 different forms, which came from the manipulation of the Jenova cells. Kuja is just gonna have to accept defeat this time.
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Posted 2005-01-09, 04:48 PM in reply to Draco2003's post starting "Sephiroth was not controlled by Jenova,..."
Thank God Kuja the user ain't here. He might be inclined to kill you.

1. Sephiroth's Jenova Cells provoked him. How else can you explain him suddenly going insane? It's a crappy plot, but Jenova's influence on him is evident.

2. Trance is normally a Limit. Like Kuja said, a normal Trance wouldn't work. So, he used the Invincible and the souls it had to create a sorta Super Trance. As far as we can tell, he can maintain this Trance for an extended period of time. It might even have been permanent, but his near-death state removed it. A normal Trance is nothing compared to his.

3. Sephiroth has technically two forms. Human can count, but Safer and Bizarro Sephiroth forms aren't really taken into consideration. We're just assuming he has all the powers he had while in those forms, but he can stay in human form. I doubt he would want to be in Bizarro or Safer Sephiroth form since I doubt either form has alot of mobility.

With Curaga and Reflect, Kuja could deal with Seph's magic. His physical attacks are the ever present problem. Like I said, he simply needs to use magic to keep Sephiroth at bay. Flare Star, Demi, Flare, Holy, and of course, his sorta Super Ultima. His Ultima is unique and the Ultima variations in other FF's cannot compare. I say he could win, but I await your reply.

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Posted 2005-01-12, 10:05 AM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post starting "Thank God Kuja the user ain't here. He..."
Sephiroth's mobility might be slower in Bizarro or Safer form (I doubt it would be though in Safer) but still his defense is much more stronger. I mean just compare hit points between Sephiroth and Safer Sephiroth.

Sephiroth: about 5,200

Safer Sephiroth: about 72,000

and if all of your characters are maxed out, then Safer Sephiroth's hit points get extremely higher as a result. So any way you put it the two forms would help Sephiroth out that is if we are using them.
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