Yawgmoth Wants Zonalon banned.

Honestly, I don't think he should be banned, but state your opinion anyway.

Actually, it was me reporting his post that probably sparked it, so don't villify Yawgmoth.

Can I vote? Please?

At the moment I hate his biased opinions on things, but I'll give him a chance to mature, like I did.

I was re-invited here anyways. If not I wouldn't have come back to begin with.

Attacking Christians on the Internet is OKAY. Attacking Muslims on the Internet is OKAY. But attacking Jews, God's chosen one, the poor innocent "victim", the chosen race, oh, that's NOT OKAY.

Oh well. I'll keep the Anti-Zionism in certain threads. No big deal.

Should've made the poll public.

Zonalon, you're wrong. Get over it.

I am not okay with attacks on Christians nor Muslims (most such are not as insane as your attacks on Jews were though) - actually I would prefer if all sorts of attacks were kept to a minimum as they get in the way.

I'm in the "No he shouldn't" camp.

Zonalon does as zonalon does. He didn't get banned when he was first around, and I see no reason why he should be banned now. As I see it, he's not actually attacking members, in which case we could ban him for flaming. He's not baiting by posting controversial things for emotional responses (the majority of his posts since he returned have been in Opinion and Debate. If we ban people for saying controversial things in O&D, then most of us deserve to be banned for trolling - how many topics have there been in which we've ruthlessly argued against Christianity, for example?), so a trolling ban isn't merited. He's not advertising, or spamming, or pr0ning us up. Nor is he linking to illegal downloads, or suffocating us below hordes of usernames. He's not even driving members off.

Voicing Extreme opinions does not warrant a ban, nor wouldI warn him for it - an opinion can be neither right nor wrong. To single someone out and dislike them because of an opinion, as well as claim that said opinion is wrong, is in itself... "wrong".

If this time is anything like the last, zonalon will eventually be hounded off the boards. Personally I hope he isn't - I find him amusing, and his posts are alwasy a good read, albeit slightly mind-boggling.

I believe there is a difference between hating/attacking a person/group of individuals and tearing ideas, opinions and actions apart. Hating Jews, Christians, Muslims, black people, laplanders, etc. is bad. Hating Christianity, the ideals of Scientology, zonalon, etc. is good.

It probably does not fall under the same title as ad hominiem-arguments, but there are similarities.

I believe there is a difference between hating/attacking a person/group of individuals and tearing ideas, opinions and actions apart. Hating Jews, Christians, Muslims, black people, laplanders, etc. is bad. Hating Christianity, the ideals of Scientology, zonalon, etc. is good. It probably does not fall under the same title as ad hominiem-arguments, but there are similarities.

I try not to personally attack Jews but to attack their Zionist ideologies. I remember not too long ago people could say the derogatory norm for the Negroid (Negro and Negroid are not racist terms btw) race here, and rarely got banned for it, and in some cases people never called them out for it. It was odd to me then too, that whenever I questioned the tactics used by "God's chosen people" (Heck, even Atheists sometimes think they are "Chosen" somehow - brainwashing these days eh?).

I'm not here to troll but to enlighten and educate people about how our government and civilization is under Zionist siege. Sometimes even Zionist-brainwashed goyim can be part of the problem, like Jorge Bushie, Juan McAmnesty and Bacrook Hussein Obongo Osama.

I heard that if you want to avoid their brainwashing you have to wear a tinfoil hat at all times.



Zonalon, there's a difference between what you're doing and those things. Occasionally bringing up things that are offensive toward other groups in conversation is not necessarily good, but, at least on the internet, it's pretty much accepted. Occasionally bashing someone or something for whatever reason is pretty much accepted as well.

What you're doing is nothing but constant ranting about Jews in every post you make, in every thread you post in. I don't like Christian ideals and I tend to bash them and attempt to discredit them any chance I get, when the topic comes up, and the time and place is appropriate.

Zonalon is ignorant, but he's not trolling imo. He seems to honestly believe what he's saying.

Zonalon is ignorant, but he's not trolling imo. He seems to honestly believe what he's saying.

I agree. He's not trolling by any means.

No but technically he is flaming left and right if you actually pay attention to what he writes. Technically saying "spooks" instead of africans or blacks is a flame at all black people on the forum. Saying he does not like ebonics or africans is fine. Saying he doesn't like nigger speech or spooks is technically a flame. Since those are specifically derogitory terms.

Those "derogitory" terms are made specifically to insult people. Hence he knows and supports his own flaming ways. So I am in the yes he should camp. I don't mind his opinions but stating them the way he does is unacceptable by intelligent O&D standards. It also makes humanity look bad and it brings other people who talk like that to the forums which eventually loads this place with incredibly stupid people.

Therefore I submit the fact that he is a liability to the forums and the people on the forums and is therefore a risk to the already dwindling stability. We have had multiple valuable members leave because of stupidity already and the forum cannot risk to lose more.

Ban him.

I'm in the "No he shouldn't" camp. Zonalon does as zonalon does. He didn't get banned when he was first around, and I see no reason why he should be banned now. As I see it, he's not actually attacking members, in which case we could ban him for flaming. He's not baiting by posting controversial things for emotional responses (the majority of his posts since he returned have been in Opinion and Debate. If we ban people for saying controversial things in O&D, then most of us deserve to be banned for trolling - how many topics have there been in which we've ruthlessly argued against Christianity, for example?), so a trolling ban isn't merited. He's not advertising, or spamming, or pr0ning us up. Nor is he linking to illegal downloads, or suffocating us below hordes of usernames. He's not even driving members off. Voicing Extreme opinions does not warrant a ban, nor wouldI warn him for it - an opinion can be neither right nor wrong. To single someone out and dislike them because of an opinion, as well as claim that said opinion is wrong, is in itself... "wrong". If this time is anything like the last, zonalon will eventually be hounded off the boards. Personally I hope he isn't - I find him amusing, and his posts are alwasy a good read, albeit slightly mind-boggling.

I agree i guess it`s only his opinion and as WKFF said it`s not trolling.

No but technically he is flaming left and right if you actually pay attention to what he writes. Technically saying "spooks" instead of africans or blacks is a flame at all black people on the forum. Saying he does not like ebonics or africans is fine. Saying he doesn't like nigger speech or spooks is technically a flame. Since those are specifically derogitory terms. Those "derogitory" terms are made specifically to insult people. Hence he knows and supports his own flaming ways. So I am in the yes he should camp. I don't mind his opinions but stating them the way he does is unacceptable by intelligent O&D standards. It also makes humanity look bad and it brings other people who talk like that to the forums which eventually loads this place with incredibly stupid people. Therefore I submit the fact that he is a liability to the forums and the people on the forums and is therefore a risk to the already dwindling stability. We have had multiple valuable members leave because of stupidity already and the forum cannot risk to lose more. Ban him.

Also, you have to notice every OTHER kind he's insulting purposely...