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Posted 2007-08-16, 11:46 PM
in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "You know, that website seems borderline..."
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!King_Amazon! said:
You know, that website seems borderline tabloid. Just look at all of their headlines.
EDIT: "The Daily Mail is a British newspaper and the oldest tabloid, first published in 1896." according to wikipedia.
I call fake.
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This isn't the only website d00d.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_Vs._Wild
Wikipedia said:
Grylls has stated numerous times on camera that he is not to receive any assistance unless his life is in danger. However, in July 2007 it was reported in the mainstream media that at least portions of some episodes were staged and that Bear did not always survive without help. One of the more serious allegations is that while Grylls claimed to be sleeping outdoors, he was allegedly sleeping in hotels (although on Jimmy Kimmel Live, before the accusations came out, Bear stated that only the cameramen were flown out at night). The Discovery Channel said that future airings would be edited to reflect such things [4], [5], [6], [7].
Other reported instances of outside influence or staged situations include the following:
Grylls admitted wearing a flotation device in the pilot episode to ride down a river in a staged shot, citing safety reasons. He claimed that he was displeased with the decision, which came from Discovery producers, and has since been able to avoid the use of such devices.[8]
The director of the Desert Island episode, Graham Strong, noted that a diver was at hand who checked for sharks while Bear was adrift (he didn't spot the tigers, only reef sharks), and that "we" beat on the raft to scare the tiger sharks away. Also, in the Copper Canyon, Mexico episode, director Scott Tankard says that the local indian tribe, the Rarámuri indians, acted as their guides.[9].
According to the survival consultant for the show's Sierra Nevada and Desert Island episodes, Mark Wienart of Lifesong Adventures, the "wild" horses in the Sierra Nevada episode were shipped in for a choreographed feature. [10][11]
The Desert Island raft wasn't made by Bear; it was made by a team of people over a week and a half, using rope, and was dissembled for Bear to put together on camera.[12][13]
Crew members simulated molten lava by using smoke machines and hot coals. The smoke machines were used to simulate poisonous sulphur dioxide, though Grylls was not in fact facing real danger. [14]
Grylls gives the impression of being lost when he is only a few yards from tourist locations and areas of relatively heavy traffic. [15]
Hiring a man in a bear suit because they couldn't get a tame bear, running the show with a "script" (with scheduled scenes such as "Scene 10 - Grizzly Attacks Camp"), pretending that a snake found dead on the side of a road was alive, eating steak inside a badger skin, and hoisting Bear into a tree to make it look like his parachute "snagged" [16]
According to a C4 executive, "“If what has been alleged is proven to be true, I think the channel would have to think very seriously about its future relationship with him.”[17]
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Another nice tidbit from wikipedia.
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Inaccurate survival advice
The show has also garnered its share of criticism concerning the quality of its survival advice. Even the show's first survival consultant, Tom Hood, posted on his website, "I think Discovery did the viewing public a serious disservice by excluding the educational narration and concentrating on travel. Someone WILL attempt river travel as shown and there will be problems. Others will run from camp because they hear noises... Someone will attempt a rappel with paracord. People are like that. Discovery holds a huge credibility advantage and that alone will act as an endorsement of the actions seen in the show. Keep in mind that a LOT of people saw the show and a few of them are ignorant enough to attempt what they saw. Disclaimers aside, the presentation looks feasible. The fact that some folks overlooked the errors just proves the point."[18]
Among the more commonly cited inaccurate advice:
Drinking urine: Urine is saline and a dessicant, like seawater. It dries you out instead of hydrating. Drinking urine for survival is advised against by the US Army Field Manual[1], the head of the Texas Urological Society[2], and numerous survival instructors and guides.[3][4][5][6][7][8]
Bad bear advice: Bears do not "toy" with you, nor should you run from a bear, nor are the majority of bear charges actual attacks.[9][10][11]
Taking risks: The typical instinct for a person who is lost is to try and rush off in hopes of finding civilization; this is the worst possible reaction. Unless you know which way to go, you make your situation worse; survival is not a race. Likewise, being lost isn't what kills you; it's doing risks (unnecessary rock climbing, etc) that risks your life. The standard advice is that if you don't know which way to go, meet your survival needs and try to signal for rescue.[12][13][14][15]
Getting wet: In nearly every episode, Bear beelines for the coldest, most dangerous source of water in the area and gets soaked in it, often in an attempt to get downstream. This is a surefire way to put yourself at risk for hypothermia, assuming it doesn't kill you by other causes.
Using parachute cord to bear weight: Bear frequently relies on parachute cord, which the average traveller wouldn't have, to bear his weight -- for example, in a questionable fall-arresting maneuver in the alps or to abseil in the rockies. Parachute cord is weak (with a breaking strength between 100 and 750 pounds) and not abrasion-resistant. By comparison, rock climbing ropes generally have a minimum breaking strength of 4,500 pounds. A rope not only has to bear your weight, but the weight of any jerks and sudden stops.[16][17]
Improper firestarting: In most episodes, Bear uses a firesteel (improperly referred to as a flint), which is a popular and relatively easy way to start a fire -- assuming that you have one. When he tries the more typical methods for making fire when stranded, he generally does them incorrectly, lacking notches in fireboards, handling coals directly, holding bows with incorrect posture and a backwards wrap on the string, and so forth.[18][19][20][21]
Drinking from dung: Bear passes up stagnant water because of a crumbling tortoise shell, and instead drinks directly from elephant dung. Most waterborne diseases are spread through the fecal-oral route, such as giardiasis, hepatitis A, hepatitis E, bacterial dysentery, typhoid fever, vibrio parahaemolyticus infections, and polio. Drinking from dung is drinking a bacterial concentrate. Elephant dung is known to contain E. coli, salmonela, clostridium, and pseudomonas.[22] On Conan O'Brian, Bear goes so far as to call the dung "sterile".[23]
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Look at wiki's sources if you don't believe it.
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