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Are grades really accurate?
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Posted 2005-03-09, 09:56 PM
Well.

I was thinking, about my D in math. I usually would have a B or an A. I understand the material, and if after every day of math, i was given a test about what we learned that day, i would get atleast 85-100%.

My grade is failing, because im lazy. I dont want to do my work, and i dont do it.

My math teacher isnt that strict, but he tells the truth.

I remember once, i didnt do my homework, so he says to me, "You had something better to do , right?" I told him.. "No, i just forgot", and he says " So, that means you had something better to do, right?" and i couldnt think. I told him i did. He asks "what was it?".. I told him " It was nothing"

That shows that my grade is only failing because 'nothing' as in saying ' doing nothing' makes me more excited, than doing math work. So, wheres the 'consipiricy' here?

Grades are a jip. They rob you. They rob you of your self-esteem, they rob you of your self-pride, and they rob you of friends. You can be smarter than hell in a subject, but have an F. becuase you dont like the subject. I think grades are inaccurate, because its just a fucking number. The only way they get kids like me to do my HW, is to threaten detentions. Yet, i still dont do my work. Why?

I told you, i'd rather do nothing, than do my work. How about you? Dont you feel somewhat the same way? I also think that college should be allowed to anyone, s'long as they have enough money to pay. SAT's, ABC's, its all the same.

This is just my rant, i dont even know if it fits under the category of Conspiricy. I just think there is a better way..
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Posted 2005-03-09, 10:06 PM in reply to slaynish's post "Are grades really accurate?"
Up until like 6th grade, homework should be manditory. After that though, I think kids are old enough to know "hey, i have to study this to do well". I got b's + on almost every test I took (with the exception of english and spanish), but my overall grades were c's and d's because i saw homework as pointless busywork. It pissed me off to do it so I just did it hap hazardly.

I knew the subject, I saw that reading the same shit that I already knew would serve no point.

Btw, moved to gen con, I don't think the teachers are conspiring against us..

EDIT: this was before i even tried pot.
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Posted 2005-03-09, 10:21 PM in reply to slaynish's post "Are grades really accurate?"
Grades aren't really based on how smart you are, they're more based on completion of work than anything. Think about it, if you don't turn something in it becomes a 0 which, in turn, brings down your grade. I am a very smart individual when it comes to school, but I don't feel the need to do all the bullshit work. School doesn't challenge me. I make straight A's without paying attention; there's an indication on how much the American (or atleast my corporation) Education system blows.
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Posted 2005-03-10, 12:24 AM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "Grades aren't really based on how smart..."
I feel that grades are more of a test of Work Ethic than actual mental competence.

I was ejected from the Seminar program in Junior High (highest tier of the GATE program, unless it's changed) for my lack of doing homework. I slept thru class, made high marks on tests/etc, but did no homework, and next to nothing for classwork.

As far as things go in the 'World After School', it IS your work ethic that matters. Grades are typically perceived to be something other than what they are, normally.
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Posted 2005-03-10, 12:32 AM in reply to Grav's post starting "This is what pot does to you."
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This is what pot does to you.
True dat, playa. But according to !K_A!'s faq...it's only 'till your "an adult".

slaynish said:
...because its just a fucking number. The only way...
Acctually, it's a letter...maybe thats why you get bad grades in school, you're fat.
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Posted 2005-03-10, 08:35 AM in reply to kaos's post starting "True dat, playa. But according to..."
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you're fat.
And stupid.

I've stated this before. Pot doesn't make people lazy, it just so happens that a lot of lazy people smoke pot.
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Posted 2005-03-10, 10:17 AM in reply to slaynish's post "Are grades really accurate?"
hmm this thread seems to relate to me but I dont feel like responding with details =/
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Posted 2005-03-10, 12:36 PM in reply to Penguin's post starting "hmm this thread seems to relate to me..."
Can someone tell me again, because I forgot. Is everyone in America that goes to highschool on the same level of education? Meaning that there's just highschool which is the same for everyone, except for maybe a couple of classes you can choose to have?
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Posted 2005-03-10, 12:38 PM in reply to undeadzombieguy's post starting "Can someone tell me again, because I..."
sometimes I like to dip my private parts into molten tar and then run down the street pretending to be an elephant.
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Posted 2005-03-10, 12:45 PM in reply to Muldy's post starting "sometimes I like to dip my private..."
Join the club.

THE FURRY CLUB THAT IS`1
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Posted 2005-03-10, 12:57 PM in reply to undeadzombieguy's post starting "Can someone tell me again, because I..."
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Can someone tell me again, because I forgot. Is everyone in America that goes to highschool on the same level of education? Meaning that there's just highschool which is the same for everyone, except for maybe a couple of classes you can choose to have?
No, there are different types of graduation diplomas. Example: At my school we have Core 40 or Academic Honors Diploma. Core 40 classes are regular classes (none of them advanced) and the Honors Diploma classes are almost all advanced. There are a certain number of credits you need in order to graduate with the diplomas. For Core 40 there are 40. For Honors it's 47 or 48, something like that.

With Honors, they expect more of you.
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Posted 2005-03-10, 01:17 PM in reply to kaos's post starting "Join the club. THE FURRY CLUB THAT..."
you can't tell me what to do.
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Posted 2005-03-10, 02:07 PM in reply to Muldy's post starting "you can't tell me what to do."
School really doesn't matter; the only way you'll get anywhere in life is if you study the Torah and/or have a crooked nose and/or have a name that ends in stein/berg/witz (but you can always change that name).
Snow is racist. It does not have an equal amount of colored snow as it does white snow. We must find a way to alter nature so that snow becomes colored.

When you decorate your tree for Christmas, you must put at least 24.8% colored bulbs, and they must be placed throughout the tree and not segregated in any matter.

Christmas presents must not be wrapped in white paper.

If Christmas music is to be played, under no circumstances is 'Have a White Christmas' to be Played.

Turkey may be served, but only if there is an equal amount of dark and white meat be served.

You must keep your colored and white dogs in the same room at all times, unsegregated, and they must get along at all times.
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Posted 2005-03-10, 02:09 PM in reply to zonalon's post starting "School really doesn't matter; the only..."
Shut up noob, for all we know, you probably still get "checks" and "stars" on your report card.
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Posted 2005-03-10, 02:24 PM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "No, there are different types of..."
So can you still get into university to get a masters degree with just the basic highschool diploma or is college where you can get a bachelors degree your only option?
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Posted 2005-03-10, 02:30 PM in reply to undeadzombieguy's post starting "So can you still get into university to..."
If you're too lazy to even do homework, you must be fat.

Homework is so easy.
Snow is racist. It does not have an equal amount of colored snow as it does white snow. We must find a way to alter nature so that snow becomes colored.

When you decorate your tree for Christmas, you must put at least 24.8% colored bulbs, and they must be placed throughout the tree and not segregated in any matter.

Christmas presents must not be wrapped in white paper.

If Christmas music is to be played, under no circumstances is 'Have a White Christmas' to be Played.

Turkey may be served, but only if there is an equal amount of dark and white meat be served.

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Posted 2005-03-10, 02:33 PM in reply to zonalon's post starting "If you're too lazy to even do homework,..."
Of course it is when you copy/paste everything.
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Posted 2005-03-10, 02:39 PM in reply to undeadzombieguy's post starting "So can you still get into university to..."
I'm pretty sure you can still get a Master's with the basic diploma, it's going to be a lot harder though.
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Posted 2005-03-10, 06:24 PM in reply to slaynish's post "Are grades really accurate?"
slaynish said:
I also think that college should be allowed to anyone, s'long as they have enough money to pay. SAT's, ABC's, its all the same.
Ugh.. I'd probably kill myself. I can't stand really stupid people (or even smart people who act like dumbasses).

And about work ethic, that's exactly what grades are. Do you really think they give out measures of your "current level of intelligence" every semester? If you don't do the work, you're either really lazy or have no goals.
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Posted 2005-03-10, 07:35 PM in reply to Xenn's post starting "Ugh.. I'd probably kill myself. I can't..."
If grades are about work ethic, then why don't I get a report card that says "good effort", or "good ethics". You get a card with an A, B, C, D, or F. You can sit down and try as hard as you can and still not understand something. You can do the homework to the best of you abilities and still get a C or a B. If it was just a judge of work ethic, there shouldnt be ANY of that shit. If the teech sees that you put effort into it, regardless of its right or not, it should be enough to get a "pass".

But it's not. You can try your hardest on a math assignment, get a few problems wrong, and get a C. It IS to judge how well you know the subject, not work ethic.
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