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Battle! Psycho Mantis vs. Seymour
 
Posted 2004-08-17, 06:36 AM
Arena: Winterbane Canyon

In the Red Corner, armed with an assortment of psychokinetic, telekinetic and pyrokinetic talents in addition to a bondage fetish that would put Marilyn manson to shame! The world's most powerful practicioner of telekinesis, from Metal Gear Solid: Psycho Mantis!!!

And in the Blue Corner, loaded with an array of destructive magic, an impressive assortment of summoning capabilities and a hairstyle that you could cut a roast on! The misbegotten husband of Yuna, the great deciever himself, from Final Fantasy 10: Seymour!!!

In the harsh, freezing climate of Winterbane Canyon, a battle of magical force and mental firepower shall be waged. Will Seymour's hyper-destructive abilities be enough to overcome the mind-bending powers of Psycho Mantis? Will Mantis' mental probes be devilish enough to overpower Seymour's demonic powers? Let the battle begin...
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Posted 2004-08-17, 11:25 AM in reply to Raziel's post "Battle! Psycho Mantis vs. Seymour"
In my opinion Psychomantis would win cause he gots all those telekenesis crap and fireballs and throwing around chairs and crap in the air.
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Posted 2004-08-17, 04:54 PM in reply to gendark01's post starting "In my opinion Psychomantis would win..."
Which Version of seymour?
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Posted 2004-08-17, 11:28 PM in reply to Insane Chaoz's post starting "Which Version of seymour?"
Any abilities that he had access to in the game he has access to here, unless the judges call foul on any of his abilities.

I say Mantis. Why? He can read minds. There's not a single thing Seymour could do to outmaneuver Mantis' mental probes. He would anticipate all of Seymour's attacks, and would counter them accordingly.
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Posted 2004-08-18, 09:17 AM in reply to Raziel's post starting "Any abilities that he had access to in..."
Yeah, its not exactly fair though, since in Metal Gear you had to change controller slots to defeat him so he couldn't read your mind. I don't know what a non-controller fight equivalent of that would be?
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Posted 2004-08-18, 09:40 AM in reply to Titusfied's post starting "Yeah, its not exactly fair though,..."
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Yeah, its not exactly fair though, since in Metal Gear you had to change controller slots to defeat him so he couldn't read your mind. I don't know what a non-controller fight equivalent of that would be?
Wait a sec.. You had to change the controller slots? Shit no wonder it took me forever to beat him lol.
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Posted 2004-08-18, 01:24 PM in reply to gendark01's post starting "Wait a sec.. You had to change the..."
Heh, honestly, if Seymour can figure out a way to get past the mind reading, Mantis has no chance what-so-ever.

There are multiple variations of Seymour at his disposal, which gives a shit load of great skills, magic, etc. to use.

Seymour:

Multi-Thundara - Double lightning based magic attack.
Thundara - Lightning based magic attack.
Multi-Blizzara - Double ice based magic attack.
Blizzara - Ice based magic magic attackr.
Multi-Watera - Double water based magic attack.
Watera - Water based magic attack.
Multi-Fira - Double fire based magic attack.
Fira - Fire based magic attack.
Shell - Damage received by magic is cut in half.
Summon Anima - Summons the Aeon Anima.


Which leads to Anima's skills:

Special Attack:
Pain: Extremely damaging attack, with a high chance of instant death.

Skills:
Sleep Attack
Silence Attack
Blind Attack
Sleep Buster
Silence Buster
Blind Buster
Zombie Attack

Black Magic:
Fire
Thunder
Water
Blizzard
Fira
Thundara
Watera
Blizzara
Firaga
Thundaga
Waterga
Blizzaga
Bio
Death

Overdrive:
Oblivion: Massive non-elemental damage.

Of course, those skills shouldn't work on a main boss of any game, so those are basically insignificant. Also, of course Firaga > Fira > Fire, but because it costs MP's to use each spell, they are still at Anima's disposal just in case it runs low on MP, which at high levels, it basically never does.

Overdrive occurs when Anima is damaged a lot, and is not to be messed with. I'm guessing all the Black Magic is basically self-explanatory, so I didn't bother writing a description for them.


Now, Seymour Flux:

Flare - Non-elemental magic damage.
Lance of Atrophy - Physical damage and Zombie status to one character.
Protect - Damage received by physical attacks is cut in half.
Dispel - Nullifies all good status ailments from your entire group.
Reflect - Reflects some spells on himself.


Next, Seymour Natus:

Break - Uses Petrification on one person.
Banish - Counter attack on an aeon, and makes them get killed automatically no
matter what.
Multi-Blizzara - Ice based magic attack on two characters.
Multi-Fira - Fire based magic attack on two characters.
Multi-Watera - Water based magic attack on one character.
Multi-Thundara - Lightning based magic attack on one character.
Protect - Damage received by physical attacks is cut in half.
Flare - Non-elemental magic damage on one person.


Finally, Seymour Omnis:

Dispel - Nullifies all good status ailments from your entire group.
Ultima - Non-elemental magic damage on every person.
Thundara - Lightning based magic attack.
Fira - Fire based magic attack.
Watera - Water based magic attack.
Blizzara - Ice based magic attack.
Thundaga - Lightning based magic attack.
Firaga - Fire based magic attack.
Waterga - Water based magic attack.
Blizzaga - Ice based magic attack.



Now, Psycho Mantis:

He is a former member of the KGB's Psychic Intelligence, this FOXHOUND member has powerful telekinetic and mind-reading abilities.


In all honestly, the only reason Mantis was even able to read his mind and didge all his attacks is because non of the attacks he faced was magic attacks. It is easy to dodge a bullet when you know where it is going to hit, but to dodge an elemental black magic that gets casted on a target, not a spot, seems impossible to dodge to me. I might be wrong, but I don't think magic really ever misses, but it can be nullified or the damage can get lessened, and I know Mantis doesn't ahve any of those abilities.

Seymour without a doubt.
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Posted 2004-08-18, 05:39 PM in reply to Titusfied's post starting "Heh, honestly, if Seymour can figure..."
Yeah, I'm thinking Seymour here as well. I think the highest Magic dodge rate in any FF game was like 10% or something, but that's only for Magic-based characters (which I don't think Mantis is)

That "Zombie Attack + Life thing" option he used at one point works as well... I think even Jecht could be killed by that one.
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Posted 2004-08-18, 08:55 PM in reply to BlueCube's post starting "Yeah, I'm thinking Seymour here as..."
UNLESS SEYMOUR PLUGGED HIS CONTROLLER INTO THE SECOND SLOT! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ! Actually I would go with Psycho Mantis because he has learned from his above mistake and learned to read from both slots and now he is ever invincible. He would psychically make Seymour use his powers on his-self. Psycho Mantis is definately the bigger man here!
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Posted 2004-08-18, 09:00 PM in reply to Draco2003's post starting "UNLESS SEYMOUR PLUGGED HIS CONTROLLER..."
That is a ridiculous argument.

He can't dodge all the magic attacks being thrown at him. Simple enough I'd think.
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Posted 2004-08-22, 12:21 PM in reply to Titusfied's post starting "That is a ridiculous argument. :) ..."
Well if Psycho Mantis can read and manipulate minds he can technically dodge spells by making the caster change his target or change from target to location magic(FFT style targeting) and then he could easily taqke advatage of the battle. Although I am not sure how Aeons work, but from the afore mentioned pararaph, it sounds like if Seymour gets the aeon out, and it is a god or something, I doubt psycho mantis can control both of them at the same time. He can control the aeon and risk getting blasted by one of seymour's magic attacks. Or he can control seymour and risk getting obliterated by the aeon. I believe Psycho mantis would win, unless seymour can get out the aeon. So there is my vote; Mantis=no aeon; Seymour=aeon!
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Posted 2004-08-22, 12:46 PM in reply to Draco2003's post starting "Well if Psycho Mantis can read and..."
The problem is, when you cast a spell, you cast it on the person, and no matter where the person goes, they get hit. Also, a spell is not allowed to be casted on just anything, it requires a target for a successful casting to occur, which means Mantis can't just manipulate Seymour to cast the spell on just anything.

Oh, and when the Aeon is out, Seymour is not in the fight, at least that is the way it worked in FFX. They take turns in the fight.

And I don't think Mantis can manipulate minds, he can just read them, and he also has telekenetic abilities.
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Posted 2004-08-22, 03:49 PM in reply to Titusfied's post starting "The problem is, when you cast a spell,..."
AHHHHHHHH!!!


YOU PEOPLE NEED BETTER MEMORIES!!!!

Jysical in his sphere says, "his mind is closed even to me, a maester of yevon."

SEE??!?????


Also, you forget the Mortibody. How could Mantis read Seymour's mind and the Mortibody's? Read Seymour's mind, dodge some spells, but while he's floating around, Mortibody nails him with Desperado.

Comprende?

Mantis may have telepathic powers, but he's human. He can't dodge things forever. There's a thing called fatigue.

I hope I've cleared any doubts about Seymour's EASY victory.
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Posted 2004-08-26, 02:36 PM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post starting "AHHHHHHHH!!! YOU PEOPLE NEED..."
Psycho Mantis will just have to take this one sitting down. He has no way of winning. And, Titusfied, he can manipulate minds. If you have ever played Metal Gear Solid, he controls Merill, while dodging snakes shots and throwing objects at him. Mantis does have very powerful psychic abilities, but seymour has students. He will get bart to foil the train of thought that manits has! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Posted 2004-08-26, 03:12 PM in reply to Draco2003's post starting "Psycho Mantis will just have to take..."
right....someone hurry up and close this
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Posted 2004-08-29, 04:09 PM in reply to Insane Chaoz's post starting "right....someone hurry up and close this"
Yeah, cuz we all know Seymour is too badass for the likes of Mantis. His powers are formiddable, against Humans. He lives in a world governmed by the same rules as us. Seymour's magic powers are out of this world. The only thing he can do is throw rocks and shit at Seymour. While he's mounting his sad last stand, the Desperado is cutting him up.

IT'S OVER!!! Just end it already. Mantis has suffered enough...
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Posted 2004-09-03, 04:12 AM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post starting "Yeah, cuz we all know Seymour is too..."
This battle has come to a close! Please make your way to the Bracket Thread for the details!
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