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View Poll Results: Should the reputation system be changed?
No, it's fine how it is 8 44.44%
Yes, remove it entirely 0 0%
Yes, only allow positive reputation changes 4 22.22%
Yes, let people disable it for themselves 4 22.22%
Yes, but I don't know how to make it better 0 0%
I don't care 2 11.11%
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Posted 2008-03-12, 08:53 AM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "Why? This is an added incentive to keep..."
x2.

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Posted 2008-03-12, 04:54 PM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "Why? This is an added incentive to keep..."
Thanatos said:
Why? This is an added incentive to keep people coming back and to attract new members. Maybe it's not going to make that much of a difference, but at least it's something?
How is it an incentive to come back? It doesn't do anything. It serves no purpose other than e-peen enlargement.

Of course, the same could be said about post count, but my post count is not determined by what some retard thinks of me.
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Posted 2008-03-12, 05:29 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "How is it an incentive to come back? ..."
just let it be
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Posted 2008-03-12, 10:46 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "How is it an incentive to come back? ..."
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How is it an incentive to come back? It doesn't do anything. It serves no purpose other than e-peen enlargement.

Of course, the same could be said about post count, but my post count is not determined by what some retard thinks of me.

If there were more people to look up to, more people that posted thought provoking dialogue, rather than accusations and intimidations people would be more likely to want to get their two cents in. This is why discussions outside of the chatterbox and flame forum should be held to the rules and emptied of a good portion of the post disencouraging content.

I could not tell you how many times I have read an interesting opening post and by the time I filtered through all the spam, shit talk and other bullshit, I didn't care to add my thoughts to such intellectually devoid conversations.

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Posted 2008-03-12, 10:49 PM in reply to Adrenachrome's post starting "If there were more people to look up..."
Adrenachrome said:
If there were more people to look up to, more people that posted thought provoking dialogue, rather than accusations and intimidations people would be more likely to want to get their two cents in. This is why discussions outside of the chatterbox and flame forum should be held to the rules and emptied of a good portion of the post disencouraging content.

I could not tell you how many times I have read an interesting opening post and by the time I filtered through all the spam, shit talk and other bullshit, I didn't care to add my thoughts to such intellectually devoid conversations.
I agree. And if we had a shop where Rep was factored in, and people actually CARED about whether or not they've got good rep, you could effectively use it to keep people in line.

Right now, though, anyone with half a brain shouldn't give a shit whether they get negative or positive rep, because it doesn't do anything to them.
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Posted 2008-03-12, 10:51 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "I agree. And if we had a shop where..."
Well the way I see it. It doesn't do anything to them because of the immature way some people use it. Being that I want it to be useful I refuse to abuse it.


... If only everyone wanted it to help.

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Posted 2008-03-12, 10:56 PM in reply to Adrenachrome's post starting "Well the way I see it. It doesn't do..."
Making all rep public and having it be somewhat moderated would help that. I still think it needs to have some sort of reward and punishment, though. Really, if it doesn't, it's just a number. You guys could negatively rep me all you want right now and I really wouldn't care.
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Posted 2008-03-13, 06:11 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Making all rep public and having it be..."
The reward is positive rep, the punishment is negative rep.

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Posted 2008-03-13, 07:53 AM in reply to Adrenachrome's post starting "The reward is positive rep, the..."
But neither of them do anything. That's my point. It's not a very effective reward/punishment if it doesn't do anything. If having higher rep did something for you, people would care more about getting good rep. Currently, it does nothing, so I honestly couldn't care less.
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Posted 2008-03-13, 08:14 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "But neither of them do anything. ..."
People cared about activity when it did nothing. People care about post count when it does nothing. Why wouldn't they care about rep when it does nothing?
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Posted 2008-03-13, 08:38 AM in reply to WetWired's post starting "People cared about activity when it did..."
Good point, WW.
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Posted 2008-03-13, 09:31 AM in reply to WetWired's post starting "People cared about activity when it did..."
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People cared about activity when it did nothing. People care about post count when it does nothing. Why wouldn't they care about rep when it does nothing?

Why even bother, let people care about shit. It keeps people around the forums, because we all know the discussions aren't keeping members around.














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Posted 2008-03-13, 04:03 PM in reply to WetWired's post starting "People cared about activity when it did..."
WetWired said:
People cared about activity when it did nothing. People care about post count when it does nothing. Why wouldn't they care about rep when it does nothing?
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Of course, the same could be said about post count, but my post count is not determined by what some retard thinks of me.
Same applies to activity.
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Posted 2008-03-13, 04:48 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Same applies to activity."
I never cared about my post count or rep. Only activity cuz i want to keep this avatar.
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Posted 2008-03-13, 07:57 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "But neither of them do anything. ..."
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But neither of them do anything. That's my point. It's not a very effective reward/punishment if it doesn't do anything. If having higher rep did something for you, people would care more about getting good rep. Currently, it does nothing, so I honestly couldn't care less.

Uhh.. You are looking right past my point.

Positive rep makes you look credible, negative rep makes you look like a dick.

Do you wish to look credible or like a dick?

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Posted 2008-03-13, 07:59 PM in reply to Adrenachrome's post starting "Uhh.. You are looking right past my..."
I can think of a few forums where people collect neg rep to be badass or whatever.
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Posted 2008-03-13, 09:03 PM in reply to Grav's post starting "I can think of a few forums where..."
Well that's fine too. I am just having a hard time figuring out exactly what KA wants the reputation to "do" for us members. IMO it does just what it is suposed to do, represent the opinion of members about another member. Nevermind rewards, the reward is the positive, or negative rep in itself

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Posted 2008-03-13, 09:36 PM in reply to Adrenachrome's post starting "Uhh.. You are looking right past my..."
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Uhh.. You are looking right past my point.

Positive rep makes you look credible, negative rep makes you look like a dick.

Do you wish to look credible or like a dick?
Without rep moderation, that is just simply untrue. For instance, D3v was the first person to reach 3 bars. By cheating. That doesn't make him look credible at all.

If rep were made public, and were moderated, it WOULD serve a bit of a purpose, even without having incentives for having higher rep. Either way, if someone doesn't give a shit about their rep, then negatively repping them won't matter.

This is my point. If it's tied into a shop system of sorts, you essentially MAKE people want positive rep, and encourage people to not be asshats, so they don't get negative rep.
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Posted 2008-03-14, 02:09 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Without rep moderation, that is just..."
Why are we still discussing this? WW will do something about it when he has time! Just stop talking about it!
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Posted 2008-03-14, 02:27 PM in reply to Asamin's post starting "Why are we still discussing this? WW..."
Actually, the majority opinion seems to be that there's nothing wrong with it, so I have to plans to change it.

To be honest, for me to invest a lot of time in something outside of work, it has to be "fun", or "new and interesting." AJAX chatbox is "new and interesting." AJAX games are "new and interesting." Moderation systems are "old and boring." I will, however, try to convince myself that migrating to vB 3.7 is "new and interesting." Somehow...
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