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Posted 2015-10-12, 04:26 AM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "I was surprised by that too. He and I..."
Constitutionally speaking, that list is on par. Unfortunately, he could just be political-speaking out of the side of his mouth. Similar to 2008 and 2012 campaign Obama.


edit: Not that it really matters, but there is a Democratic debate tonight.














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Posted 2015-10-12, 12:14 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "Constitutionally speaking, that list is..."
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Constitutionally speaking, that list is on par. Unfortunately, he could just be political-speaking out of the side of his mouth. Similar to 2008 and 2012 campaign Obama.


edit: Not that it really matters, but there is a Democratic debate tonight.
It's hard to judge what is and what isn't "political-speak," so unless there's a compelling reason not to, I usually take campaigners at face-value on their positions.

A bit odd to hear your take on Obama, though. I'd think he's followed through, or at least tried to follow through on most of his campaign promises. If I had to put a number on it, I'd say on 80% he's tried.
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Posted 2015-10-15, 12:31 AM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "It's hard to judge what is and what..."
Just based on the bit I watched from the debate, Hillary had a lot more cool when making responses, inherently due to her 2012 campaign.
Sanders came off as an angry old man. I honestly lost interest as soon as he used the "1% is evil" to garner applause.

I like to wait until the primaries to check the political stance for each candidate. That way there's the least chance they'll change their minds.
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