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Posted 2010-07-27, 08:50 AM in reply to kyeruu's post starting "Yeah, sorry about the random rage. ..."
kyeruu said: [Goto]
Yeah, sorry about the random rage.

I'll fix it up.

What basically i said is. Anyone who's read the bible, has basic knowledge that it condemns the act of homosexuality, in many of it's verses.

Scientifically it has been recently proven, that although there is no "gay gene" there are heritage-wise genes, that cause more feminine outputs on men, or that simple show in the chromosomes that, homosexuality can be inherited from the woman.

Which brings up the controversial question.

If god dislikes/hates homosexuality, and commits no error, why did he create man with said "feminine" gene? or anything that could make a man seem homosexual?

the perfect example is something in the spanish term called "amanerado" which is slang to define a person who talks with a gayish like voice, and has a lot of feminine qualities, YET they dont' do it on purpose, it's purely genetic, in forms of behavior and imitation.

Which makes me asks, that if the above statements are true.

Then god is either:

1. Not real, the bible lied.

2. A malevolent selfish being, which the bible says is not true. Which goes back to the first statement.
The problem is that you're trying to use logic but you're dealing with completely illogical people. They'll just come up with some new irrational way to explain it like:

"The scientists are lying"

"If such a genes exist then people who have them must be descendants of the Sodomites"

"DNA is a lie"

Among other things. They're fucking insane by definition, and you're trying to convince them with logic. Which basically makes you an idiot.

And if you don't think the bible portrays God as being malevolent, you obviously haven't read the Old Testament. The Old Testament God is pretty much a raging asshole. Hell, the guy hates figs (and fags.)
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Posted 2010-07-27, 09:44 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "The problem is that you're trying to..."
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And if you don't think the bible portrays God as being malevolent, you obviously haven't read the Old Testament. The Old Testament God is pretty much a raging asshole. Hell, the guy hates figs (and fags.)
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all of fiction; jealous, and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

- Richard Dawkins
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Posted 2010-07-27, 10:59 AM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "The God of the Old Testament is..."
I've never seen the logic in arguing religion.
Everyone believes something different, and in the end, they're all just standing at different angles of the circle staring into the same thing: The fact that something has to justify the effed up world we live in and the individuals that make it that way.
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Posted 2010-07-27, 03:29 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "The God of the Old Testament is..."
Why else would I need further proof?
It's like that, right now.
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Posted 2010-07-31, 12:49 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "The problem is that you're trying to..."
!King_Amazon! said: [Goto]
The problem is that you're trying to use logic but you're dealing with completely illogical people. They'll just come up with some new irrational way to explain it like:

"The scientists are lying"

"If such a genes exist then people who have them must be descendants of the Sodomites"

"DNA is a lie"

Among other things. They're fucking insane by definition, and you're trying to convince them with logic. Which basically makes you an idiot.

And if you don't think the bible portrays God as being malevolent, you obviously haven't read the Old Testament. The Old Testament God is pretty much a raging asshole. Hell, the guy hates figs (and fags.)
Agreed, i have read the old testament. But according to the religious-fags: "god did all that, for a reason"

So therefore, this logical paradox, disproves all they say.

But of course, they'll just do as you say.

Demosthenes said: [Goto]
Citations, please.
http://www.mission.org/jesuspeople/thegaygene.htm

Even the religious fags, admit homosexuality is partly genetic.

http://www.skeptictank.org/gaygene.htm

in order to be fair, the site below, argues against homosexuality, and then for it, in both terms.

http://www.slate.com/id/2194232

in conclusion, those three sites, should be all the proof i need, to say: "homosexuality is coined with genetics"

not saying it IS genetic, has in, there's a chromosome that says: "yo kid, you will own a penis, and suck it"

But you can't argue or disprove the reality, that genetics play a huge part in homosexuality.

Which brings to this question: Why the fuck, would the perfect "God" who makes zero mistakes. Make homosexuality coined with genetics?

Knowing that human beings cannot modify genetics, why make it- in theory - absolutely impossible for "gays" to stray from their gay ways?

Answer? There is none, your god is bullshit.

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Posted 2010-07-31, 01:51 AM in reply to kyeruu's post starting "Agreed, i have read the old testament...."

Alcoholism is genetic, so everyone is an alcoholic.
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Posted 2010-08-05, 02:15 PM in reply to kyeruu's post starting "Agreed, i have read the old testament...."
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Which brings to this question: Why the fuck, would the perfect "God" who makes zero mistakes. Make homosexuality coined with genetics?
You have to take it a few steps back. God for we know has never written anything, the 'interpreters' for God are the ones who have written 'his words'.














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Posted 2010-08-06, 12:49 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "You have to take it a few steps back...."
Not to mention, compair-contrast between the Jewish scripture and Bible show some major differences. The Bible has been edited, to say the least.
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