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View Poll Results: Do you believe in some sort of God, higher being, creator?
Yes I believe we were created by either God or something else. 6 66.67%
No I dont believe in any kind of God or creator. 3 33.33%
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Posted 2008-09-24, 06:31 AM in reply to D3V's post starting "I like to think of our existence as..."
Evolution... We didn't appear out of no where, we evolved over millions of years into what we are today. In another million years we will look 150% different then we do today.

Ever see the episode of The Simpsons when Lisa makes an entire civilization with a soda can? What if our god is like that, just some dork with a big brain, and we are starting to get to smart for our boots so he plans on ending our existence in 2012.
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Posted 2008-09-24, 01:27 PM in reply to Kazilla's post starting "Evolution... We didn't appear out of no..."
Kazilla said: [Goto]
Evolution... We didn't appear out of no where, we evolved over millions of years into what we are today. In another million years we will look 150% different then we do today.

Ever see the episode of The Simpsons when Lisa makes an entire civilization with a soda can? What if our god is like that, just some dork with a big brain, and we are starting to get to smart for our boots so he plans on ending our existence in 2012.
If we fast forward about 1000 years or so, and imagine the technology we would have in that time, an entire colony of people could equal an ant farm that a child owns.

If you think about how small we are, what stopping us from just being some experiment in a laboratory?
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Posted 2008-09-24, 01:50 PM in reply to Kazilla's post starting "Evolution... We didn't appear out of no..."
I like to think my personality, what makes me me, isn't the result of pond scum evolving into me.
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Posted 2008-09-24, 01:54 PM in reply to Willkillforfood's post starting "I like to think my personality, what..."
According to christianity god knows everything you do before you even think it. His plan is working perfectly and you are his pawn. When he is done with you he tosses you aside 6ft under. If he wants to to choke you choke, if he wants you to sing you'll sing. According to christianity you are nothing but zombies walking the earth and are nothing more then a crazy sadistic moron's imgination of.. the eprfect world.
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Posted 2008-09-24, 02:05 PM in reply to Kazilla's post starting "According to christianity god knows..."
If evolutionary theory is correct, we're all just slaves to hormones, instincts, and different biological algorithims. I don't really see much difference.
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Posted 2008-09-24, 02:11 PM in reply to Willkillforfood's post starting "If evolutionary theory is correct,..."
God:
Controls your ever move, makes you think what you think, makes you do what you do. (no control)

Evolution:
Slaves to hormones, instints, and different biological algorithims. (control)

With one, someone is basically pulling your strings and making you type what you are typing, it is not you decided I want to say this hahaha, It is god.

In the other, you are basically your own man. You follow a destined path of death and evolve but, in the end - you get to where you needed to be. We adapted to weak fingertips, so we evolved over time and grew fingernails. Not because some man made us do it. But because we found that without them we were a weaker species.
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Posted 2008-09-24, 02:16 PM in reply to Kazilla's post starting "God: Controls your ever move, makes..."
God isn't supposed to be "pulling all the strings like a puppet." The christian philosopher Augustine introduced us to the importance of "will." In fact, a big part of religious philosophy is making our OWN choices and dealing with the consequences.

Also, you gain purpose. The purpose suggested by Augustine is that we were created to "love and be loved." Hell, that's better than being a shitstain on the universe. I'm not saying I totally believe in divine intervention, but it sure seems a lot of a lot better.
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Posted 2008-09-24, 02:13 PM in reply to Kazilla's post starting "According to christianity god knows..."
Kazilla said: [Goto]
According to christianity god knows everything you do before you even think it. His plan is working perfectly and you are his pawn. When he is done with you he tosses you aside 6ft under. If he wants to to choke you choke, if he wants you to sing you'll sing. According to christianity you are nothing but zombies walking the earth and are nothing more then a crazy sadistic moron's imgination of.. the eprfect world.
according to Christian extremists, not all of us believe that. The bible was set in place as an example of how to better our lives, and live in the "grace of God". We also believe in free will, which prohibits God from directly interfering with our lives.














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Posted 2008-09-24, 02:54 PM in reply to Kazilla's post starting "According to christianity god knows..."
Kazilla said: [Goto]
According to christianity god knows everything you do before you even think it. His plan is working perfectly and you are his pawn. When he is done with you he tosses you aside 6ft under. If he wants to to choke you choke, if he wants you to sing you'll sing. According to christianity you are nothing but zombies walking the earth and are nothing more then a crazy sadistic moron's imgination of.. the eprfect world.
No offense but how can you speak on behalf of Christianity if you don't know anything about it? You have said that the Bible predicts California is going to break off from the United States, (The Bible does not state that anywhere.) and you have also said that the Bible predicts that the earth will end in 2012. The Bible didn't predict that either, people think that because the Mayan calender stops in 2012.

Maybe you should read the Bible before you say you know what's in it.
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Posted 2008-09-24, 03:02 PM in reply to -Spector-'s post starting "No offense but how can you speak on..."
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No offense but how can you speak on behalf of Christianity if you don't know anything about it? You have said that the Bible predicts California is going to break off from the United States, (The Bible does not state that anywhere.) and you have also said that the Bible predicts that the earth will end in 2012. The Bible didn't predict that either, people think that because the Mayan calender stops in 2012.

Maybe you should read the Bible before you say you know what's in it.
Your assuming he read the same Bible as you. You do know there are multitudes of branches of religion, and many of them have a book called The Bible...

edit: Also I am just making the assumption that he did read that in a bible of some sorts. Of course he could be making false statements...
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Posted 2008-09-24, 03:05 PM in reply to Sum Yung Guy's post starting "Your assuming he read the same Bible as..."
Well, he seems to be speaking on behalf of a Christian in most of his posts, so I would assume he's talking about the Christian Bible.

If he read the Quran (The Muslim Bible) and is talking about what the Christian Bible says, then we've got some problems...
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Posted 2008-09-24, 03:17 PM in reply to -Spector-'s post starting "Well, he seems to be speaking on behalf..."
I didn't read any bible, nor do I plan to. However, when my grandmother died my mom went really religeous on us boys and forced us to go to church and watch religious programs on the tv. On one of the programs I was watching It was talking about this 'book', or 'article' or something or another that has been predicted everything that has happened in the world thus far. That is where I got the idea that in 2009 CA goes away, and in 2012 the world ends.

Reread my posts, I'm pretty sure I said "bible or something like that." I'm not gonna make a specific claim I know nothing about, but if I did, then ram it up my ass till I say uncle..
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