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Posted 2008-08-13, 09:45 PM in reply to -Spector-'s post "You care what others think about you."
I understand your analogy, but I have to side with her... I am in the same boat, I don't care what others think of me, only what I think of me. Although, my thoughts that I don't look good aren't based on what anyone thinks looks good, it is what I feel looks good. As WetWired pointed out though, you have to care what others think of you, because that is the only way you will thrive in society at a low level. From getting a job to finding a mate, other people's views come into play that you have to take into account. Once you become Bruce Wayne, then by all means run around naked screaming and hollering, because you have the money to not need the opinions of others.

I guess it can be broken down into a simple "Money = Other people's perceptions + How far you bend to them"
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Posted 2008-08-13, 10:33 PM in reply to Draco2003's post starting "I understand your analogy, but I have..."
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I don't care what others think of me, only what I think of me. Although, my thoughts that I don't look good aren't based on what anyone thinks looks good, it is what I feel looks good.
You were invited to a Halloween party. The host tells you to dress up like the most hideous creature ever in existence. You show up at the party in this disgusting looking costume that you are comfortably wearing, only to realize the joke is on you, and nobody else is dressed up. The most influential people you know are there, and they begin to make fun of you. Pretty soon the entire party is laughing at you.

Even though you felt comfortable in the costume, would you feel comfortable in it after everyone was making fun of you? If you decided to stay, would you take the costume off?


You have a job interview for a very professional company. You wear dress pants and a collared shirt to impress your employer. You also comb your hair to the side and keep a smile on.

Does this not mean that you are worried about what your employer thinks of you? You would want to impress him with your physical appearance (For a first impression) to increase your chances of getting the job.
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Posted 2008-08-13, 10:40 PM in reply to -Spector-'s post starting "You were invited to a Halloween party...."
In regards to the Halloween party, I just plain wouldn't go, but I won't be a poor sport.

In all honesty, if it was the best costume, I would continue to wear it, or a majority of it. I would have to take the mask and gloves off if those are involved.

It's funny you bring up these 2 scenarios, because my parents throw a Halloween party every year, and I don't dress up if I am not going to be comfortable with my costume. One time I was Snoop Dogg, I was painted black from head to toe, wore a do-rag, even bought a weighted gun just to have that feel as it was tucked in my belt. Almost everyone I came across thought I was really black.

And the dressing up for the job thing, I am doing that just now. I spent 120 bucks on a new dress belt, 2 shirts and 2 pairs of khakis that I will NEVER wear again, but the training part required "business casual". I did state that there are times when you must bend to the perceptions of others, or else you will go through life as a hobo.


EDIT: The weighted gun was a pellet gun, not a real one. But it almost weighed as much as a real gun.

EDIT 2: I also wanted to have cornrows to complete the look, but I didn't get them... I stayed dressed up though, because it was a bitch to wash all the coloring off...
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Posted 2008-08-14, 11:42 AM in reply to Draco2003's post starting "In regards to the Halloween party, I..."
everyone cares what people say about them. you can't meet a person that doesnt. and if anyone posts here saying they dont is completely lying. Everyone can be broken down given enough critism about their look, speak, personality, attitude, lack there of. Some of us get alot more critism then others, so that those who dont recieve much feel like they dont care what people think.
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Posted 2008-08-14, 12:08 PM in reply to Draco2003's post starting "In regards to the Halloween party, I..."
Do you goto a job interview wearing the most god awful clothing combinations? I doubt it. Caring what an employer thinks of you is being self-conscious imo.
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Posted 2008-08-14, 12:12 PM in reply to Willkillforfood's post starting "Do you goto a job interview wearing the..."
i think its more because people know if they looked like crap they wouldnt get the job, the employer sets that standard you just have to follow it. If more employers cared less that you wore slacks and a button up, and more about how you reacted to questions and how you held yourself durring hte interview, more people would wear clothes that make them feel comfortable.
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Posted 2008-08-14, 12:26 PM in reply to Kazilla's post starting "i think its more because people know if..."
(out of subject) you fucking owned her
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Honestly, I would care on the situation.

For example, if i'm hangin' around a few friends of mine, then i wouldn't really care, since they wouldn't judge me on looks.

Ofcourse if a person which i have no idea who he/she is (preferably a chick) sees me in a badly dressed form (or looks) i'd be uncomfortable.
Basically i'd care about what people think about me, IF i'm being judged by them in a negative way towards how i look.

Completely biased.
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Posted 2008-08-14, 06:21 PM in reply to kyeruu's post starting "(out of subject) you fucking owned her..."
Only individuals that feel strongly about themselves do not truly care what other people think. These people are rare indeed, because to be successful in life, one must have a mix of not caring about others' opinions (who do not matter in life), but yet dressing to an extent (for example) as to give others good first impressions. A complicated subject express.
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