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Posted 2008-06-25, 07:59 PM in reply to Tynion's post starting "Ok, my turn. A few points to be..."
Tynion said: [Goto]
Ok, my turn.

A few points to be made.

#1: No one was being 'pimped' out. It was my understanding from both Yawg and Chruser that this forum was floundering and they both were looking for a way to improve the growth of the site. At the same time, I was looking for a webhost and a potential readerbase for my magazine.

It made sense that we sit down, have a cup of coffee and see if our desires and ambitions could walk together for a while, and at the same time we could both be mutually beneficial to each other.

#2 I am not being overly sensative about anything. I am not making a magazine to be your damn friend. You don't go to work because you like your boss or your clients. You do it because you want to make money and take care of your family. Its business man. Period. My initial post was me trying to step into your world and try to be friendly. I don't even have my first issue complete yet, so how could I even try to sell you a damn thing. If you are worried because of my business like tone, well get over it. That is how I operate. I work in a professional atmosphere and have done so for ten years. I ran a website where I needed to 'kindly coerce' people who were not being paid into writing a ton of articles, and so I developed this whole personality out of necessity of getting things done.

#3: Sort of going back to the this is business thing: sure you may not think you we rude, but look at it from someones perspective other than your own. The intention was that my readers, from other spectrums of the world, were going to be directed into your community from my site. I was going to be depositing my reader base into the same hot pot that I stepped into. I made one post and I have an a-hole grilling me. Now all the sudden I am overly sensitive. You are trying to tell me that you are not going to grill the next guy who comes in and says something that doesn't fit in with your train of thought?

News flash to you sir (the first fellow who commented on me), if you guys were doing a great job of growing your community, Yawg and Chruser would not have approached me. So I guess the point of my little rant is that while you can always feel free to shed blame onto other people, I have found that most people with problems have a real hard time finding the problem when they go in search of it. You don't need to search... it right there.

Lastly.. Don't put anything on Chruser. If my understanding is correct, he owns the place and it is on his shoulders to make the tough decisions. You should be patting him on the back for finding a good partner who has the same needs and ambitions and has potential of doing what he was struggling to do at the time, grow his network.
Asshats aren't welcome here. Bye bye now!

You claim you were "trying to step into our world and be friendly," yet you claim you don't make a magazine to be our friend?

Regardless, your intentions were not to be a "member of the community" but rather a "business-partner." At this point, I'm pretty sure all business is off and that is unlikely to change. I don't (and didn't) particularly care that you were going to be a business partner, but at the time of your posting, Chruser and Yawgmoth were the only ones informed of that. If you hadn't mentioned Yawgmoth's name, you would have been banned straight away for advertising.

Nobody here flamed you or was even rude to you. You've overreacted, and now you're coming across as even more of an asshat.

Chruser might decide that he actually still wants to persue some sort of business relationship with you, and he might disagree with me, but for now you're taking a hike.

By the way, you're going to be a failure. Business is not for you. Do something else, you're horrible at this.
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Posted 2008-06-26, 04:48 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Asshats aren't welcome here. Bye bye..."
I do not see banning as the obvious solution to an argument. Also, I happen to agree with Tynion so... Yeah, I am not sure if I should waste any efforts on trying to argue against you.

"That surface that tells the Heavens it hath an end, cannot persuade me I have any."
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Posted 2008-06-26, 08:49 AM in reply to Yawgmoth's post starting "I do not see banning as the obvious..."
Yawgmoth said: [Goto]
I do not see banning as the obvious solution to an argument. Also, I happen to agree with Tynion so... Yeah, I am not sure if I should waste any efforts on trying to argue against you.
You have bias.
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Posted 2008-06-26, 10:21 PM in reply to Yawgmoth's post starting "I do not see banning as the obvious..."
Yawgmoth said: [Goto]
I do not see banning as the obvious solution to an argument. Also, I happen to agree with Tynion so... Yeah, I am not sure if I should waste any efforts on trying to argue against you.
Then unban him. I don't think anyone really gives a shit, I enjoy slapping around nerdraging asshats who take themselves entirely too seriously.
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Posted 2008-06-27, 11:47 AM in reply to Vollstrecker's post starting "Then unban him. I don't think anyone..."
This is why I prefer dictatorship, interacting with people is irritating... And time consuming.

Also, Tynion is now unbanned - if you disagree with my decision... Blargh. If you have good points present them rationally and I will give them proper consideration, etc.

"That surface that tells the Heavens it hath an end, cannot persuade me I have any."
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Posted 2008-06-27, 02:17 PM in reply to Yawgmoth's post starting "This is why I prefer dictatorship,..."
He doesn't seem like he wants to be posting here, but I don't care if he's banned or not. Actually, if he posts here it's easier to give him a hard time .
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Posted 2008-06-27, 05:08 PM in reply to Yawgmoth's post starting "This is why I prefer dictatorship,..."
Yawgmoth said: [Goto]
This is why I prefer dictatorship, interacting with people is irritating... And time consuming.

Also, Tynion is now unbanned - if you disagree with my decision... Blargh. If you have good points present them rationally and I will give them proper consideration, etc.
[22:40] Zelaron: I don't think it was an unjustified ban.
[22:40] Zelaron: Asshattery is a nuisance.

There are my good, rational points. REBANNED BITCH!
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Posted 2008-06-27, 05:25 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "[22:40] Zelaron: I don't think it was..."
Not good enough, do not ban him again.

EDIT: Communicate with Christian again before you attempt retaliation.

"That surface that tells the Heavens it hath an end, cannot persuade me I have any."
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Posted 2008-06-27, 05:52 PM in reply to Yawgmoth's post starting "Not good enough, do not ban him again...."
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Not good enough, do not ban him again.
Well excuse the fuck out of me, I didn't realize you had authority over me. I'll kindly bow down and let you fuck me in the ass now, Master.
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Posted 2008-06-27, 07:34 PM in reply to Yawgmoth's post starting "Not good enough, do not ban him again...."
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EDIT: Communicate with Christian again before you attempt retaliation.
[18:25] Zelaron: You are right and Yawgmoth is wrong.

K? K.

K.

Unfortunately, Tynion is now unbannable, since WW seems to think that rather than figuring out why we are arguing, it's better to simply end the argument by forced submission. Either way, I chose to ban him, and Chruser seemed to support my decision. You unbanned him without giving any valid reason other than that you disagree with me and agree with him. On top of that, you had the audacity to say that if I disagree with you, I should post my points in a rational way for you to consider. Bull-fucking-shit. I don't have to submit a request to ban someone to you for your approval.

Honestly, I don't give two shits about Tynion. He most likely won't return, and if he does, and he acts like an asshat again, he'll be removed, simple as that.

What I do care about is the fact that you seem to think that you hold some sort of authority over me, as well as the forum as a whole, and the fact that you seem to think that your opinions are always correct, regardless of anything else. You're not going to come here and start running the show, so long as I've got any say in what happens around here, and you're certainly not going to boss me around.

The only thing you've got on me is the fact that you know Chruser personally. I've got a good 5 years or so of membership, as well as thousands of posts. You will not boss me around, scrub. You are nothing but a joke to me, and at the very least to a majority of the visitors of this forum. The only reason you're still around (or here at all) is because you know Chruser. The fact that you know Chruser doesn't mean SHIT to me.

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Posted 2008-06-26, 07:31 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Asshats aren't welcome here. Bye bye..."
The dude really got banned over this? lol. I love our community.

Oh yeah, and Tynion: screw off. But I think you already got the point.
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