D3V permanently banned

I think it's more because Bob knows the members who have been here for a long time, and we know D3v from way back. He's always been obnoxious.

I actually never had a real run-in with him, I believe. I've been gone for a while, did people start taking him seriously or something?

Apparently, yes. Which is my whole problem with this banning. When did people start taking this forum as a way of life and not as an entertaining part of life? Everyone is different - Some people come on here and post like they haven't had a lick of education their whole lives, other's post very thought invoking posts/threads, while others just peek in to see what's going on. Does that mean that any one of these members are better than others? Not in my opinion.

What makes a good member is someone that brings a lot of activity. Not every thread/post is going to bring positive comments that make everyone sit at their computer and have a good laugh, or really contemplate the meaning of life. Half of the activity on this damn forum is people squabbling and bickering over stupid shit - always has, and hopefully always will. For some reason is bring entertainment to people, like me. By banning someone permanently that brings that aspect to the table, as well as NUMEROUS very positive threads/posts is ridiculous.

Honestly, I don't post here enough to really see the effects is has, but like I said before, it was a pretty assinine decision.

Apparently, yes. Which is my whole problem with this banning. When did people start taking this forum as a way of life and not as an entertaining part of life? Everyone is different - Some people come on here and post like they haven't had a lick of education their whole lives, other's post very thought invoking posts/threads, while others just peek in to see what's going on. Does that mean that any one of these members are better than others? Not in my opinion. What makes a good member is someone that brings a lot of activity. Not every thread/post is going to bring positive comments that make everyone sit at their computer and have a good laugh, or really contemplate the meaning of life. Half of the activity on this damn forum is people squabbling and bickering over stupid shit - always has, and hopefully always will. For some reason is bring entertainment to people, like me. By banning someone permanently that brings that aspect to the table, as well as NUMEROUS very positive threads/posts is ridiculous. Honestly, I don't post here enough to really see the effects is has, but like I said before, it was a pretty assinine decision.

I'm in full agreement with you. I haven't posted as much on here since D3V left. Why? Because he brought a SHITLOAD of activity with him, whether it was good or bad, it was still activity and that is something that Zelaron desperately needs.

And to KA, MJ, and Grav that threatened to leave or did leave because of D3V: you guys are incredibly sensitive pussies. Grow up. You're going to leave a forum because you have a problem with a certain member? There's an ignore feature here, USE IT. The more and more I think about this, I feel KA had a major role in D3V's permanent banning. It's a well known fact that KA and D3V didn't get along, correct? They've been feuding for years. KA threatens to leave the forums altogether if something isn't done, so Chruser perm bans D3V. There's no way in hell KA would have left the forums for good. He's been here since '02, he's got over 14,000 posts, there's no way he would leave Zelaron. So he threatened to just to have D3V banned. That's my take on this, anyway. I could be incredibly off-base but it makes perfect sense to me.

Either way, this whole issue is completely retarded.

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I'm in full agreement with you. I haven't posted as much on here since D3V left. Why? Because he brought a SHITLOAD of activity with him, whether it was good or bad, it was still activity and that is something that Zelaron desperately needs. And to KA, MJ, and Grav that threatened to leave or did leave because of D3V: you guys are incredibly sensitive pussies. Grow up. You're going to leave a forum because you have a problem with a certain member? There's an ignore feature here, USE IT. The more and more I think about this, I feel KA had a major role in D3V's permanent banning. It's a well known fact that KA and D3V didn't get along, correct? They've been feuding for years. KA threatens to leave the forums altogether if something isn't done, so Chruser perm bans D3V. There's no way in hell KA would have left the forums for good. He's been here since '02, he's got over 14,000 posts, there's no way he would leave Zelaron. So he threatened to just to have D3V banned. That's my take on this, anyway. I could be incredibly off-base but it makes perfect sense to me. Either way, this whole issue is completely retarded. omgzzzzz im gong to leeve here becuz i h8 u!!

I've been feuding with D3v for years? I guess that's why I'M the one who requested he be unbanned from his LAST permanent ban. I thought he had changed from his old self, and he had changed a lot. He most likely wouldn't have even been unbanned had it not been for me asking the staff to do so. Heck, when I got him unbanned, he didn't even want to come back. I think I remember even talking him into it.

Yeah, I've been calling for D3v to be permanently banned for months now. Obviously, if this were all because of me, D3v would have been gone long before now. I think Chruser and the rest of the staff were far too easy on him before, honestly. It took far too long for this to happen.

You can think what you want, but ultimately the decision was Chruser's. It wasn't me who convinced him, but numerous people. Hell, MJordan was taking the same position as you and Titus, and no more than a week later he had completely changed sides and was calling for D3v to be banned.

Just because I've been calling for it for months doesn't mean it was because of me. I'm just the first one who saw it. Everyone else gradually had their eyes opened, by D3v himself. Had he just left MJordan alone, most likely he never would have been banned, but instead he pissed off the one person (from a conversation that numerous people had with Chruser) who was saying "don't ban D3v."

The more and more I think about this, I feel KA had a major role in D3V's permanent banning. It's a well known fact that KA and D3V didn't get along, correct? They've been feuding for years. KA threatens to leave the forums altogether if something isn't done, so Chruser perm bans D3V. There's no way in hell KA would have left the forums for good. He's been here since '02, he's got over 14,000 posts, there's no way he would leave Zelaron. So he threatened to just to have D3V banned

Looks like I was right.

So what is the reason D3V is staying banned..? Anybody? From what I've gathered, Chruser doesn't care if D3V is banned or not, he'd be all for unbanning him.... BUT... KA is preventing this.

Why does KA have more authority than Chruser in this matter?

I've never heard anything like this from Chruser. From what I've heard, Chruser is still opposed to his un-banning as of last week.

Looks like I was right. So what is the reason D3V is staying banned..? Anybody? From what I've gathered, Chruser doesn't care if D3V is banned or not, he'd be all for unbanning him.... BUT... KA is preventing this. Why does KA have more authority than Chruser in this matter?

Or perhaps D3v is once again just trying to start shit. But sure, buy into what he says and start calling me a Nazi again or something.

D3v lives in his own little world. I don't know where he got the idea that Chruser "would be all for unbanning him," but that's not the case. If it were, he wouldn't be banned.

"[12:21] Colon: chruser told me the other day that the ban had no reason to still be in tact, but it was that K_A doesn't want me to come back which is why I am not unbanned..."

All that is is D3v trying to start something.

Oh and:

"[12:33] Colon: same here ill try adn get back on and if im banned just go bump that d3v banned thread.. just say the ban has no reason behind its legitimacy any more"

Here's D3v demonstrating his manipulative skills, as well as his bad grammar. He thinks he can say a few bad things about me, claim a few falsities, and then rally you to his cause.

D3v is illogical and irrational. The things he's claiming make no sense at all. How in the hell would I be preventing D3v being unbanned if Chruser thought D3v should be unbanned? I have no doubt that Chruser values my opinion quite a bit, but not so much that he would place my opinion above his own. If, for some reason, Chruser DID value my opinion more than his own, that is not my fault, but that isn't the case anyway.

Either way, I could find numerous occasions where Chruser has expressed that he does not think D3v should be unbanned. I even asked Chruser if D3v was telling the truth about Chruser saying that he would unban him but I'm preventing it, however unlikely it was. Chruser did not say any such thing. This logically means that D3v is making shit up to try to make me (or the staff in general) look like a bad guy, so that people will bitch about me (or the staff in general) and attempt to get D3v unbanned, like he's some sort of martyr or something.

I've done nothing to deserve being blamed for anything. I've only stated my opinion on the matter, as have many others. I'm not the only one who wanted D3v banned, by any means.