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Posted 2008-03-11, 04:19 PM in reply to khwiii's post starting "I would hope not, but I do not trust..."
In response to my last link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGMMJ...watch_response

I like that guy.
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Posted 2008-03-11, 07:48 PM in reply to Atnas's post starting "In response to my last link...."
What was to gain?

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Posted 2008-03-11, 08:05 PM in reply to Adrenachrome's post starting "What was to gain?"
There's evidence that Bush, Kerry, and many other political powers within the US are in a secret society which worships a demonic deity. They do mock sacrifices. When asked about it on the air they all replied with the same answer down to the breathing pattern. Can't be good. It might be PROPAGANDA LOL It's them damn freemasons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonic...iracy_theories

No idea exactly why, but it seems like they're trying to just fuck up the world. Maybe it's greed, causing a war and using it as an excuse for powerful positions.

Ew I'll do research tomorrow I'm tired and sick.

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Posted 2008-03-11, 08:41 PM in reply to Atnas's post starting "There's evidence that Bush, Kerry, and..."
I've seen those videos before and many more and have really thought about it, but in the end I realized there is no way they would be able to pull it off. Too many things that could've gone wrong, would have.
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Posted 2008-03-12, 02:43 PM in reply to Dar_Win's post starting "I've seen those videos before and many..."
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Too many things that could've gone wrong, would have.
You mean like figuring it out? Uh yeah lol people have.

I've done a lot of pondering today concerning this and believe it makes perfect sense to go the route of thinking that the United States Government not only orchestrated 9/11, but that the cause of the madness is Freemasonry.

Freemasonry, whether you accept what the Freemasons tell you or what history tells you, conflict with my beliefs and view of a better world on almost every account. I'd like to say my world view is perfect, nolie.

First, to be initiated you have to believe in a Supreme being. Nonono. We could end right there. A monotheistic religion is possibly one of the worst. Coupled with the fact that it seems to me that they took all of the monotheistic religions and combined them into a twisted and corrupt occult, this really troubles me.

What I suspect they thought was this: "We all claim to worship the one true God. If all our God's are the only one, it's the same god in every religion." Which is true, to an extent. X=1 Y=1 X=Y Notice how their object of worship, Baphomet, looks like a fusion of the monotheistic idols?

Now, the Freemasons were started by the Knights Templar. The Knights Templar are a pretty fucked up group. There's reason to believe they even assassinated JFK, given he was willing to re-instate the specie. They don't want that, see, they want complete control of the currency. As it is today, one source controls the world's currency.

Then there's the "New World Order"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Wor...racy_theory%29

I like the point made that the point of 9/11 was to get us to surrender our basic rights for security, in turn allowing them to walk all over us.

While I don't necessarily believe in any screwy single deity, I do believe there can be semi corporeal beings such as Baphomet. We don't really know shit, and existence isn't even a sure thing. Why do we have to limit what we accept to what we know is true?

They have such a strong grip over our country no candidate elected in will ever even have a chance to uproot them.

Not to mention this is marked a conspiracy. And there are some bad attachments to that word. People will argue that there are faulty sources. Could not the sources that are marked as fake be made by the people who they were exposing? Think, blackmailing yourself with blatantly false material only to discredit your opponents.

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But I'm biased. Biased in a good way, I think. I'm against all forms of organized religion and government as we know it. Asamin pointed out to me that my own belief in the perfect society could never exist in America. True. So true. My anarchist and anti religious viewpoints will never exist in this mass of writhing dogmatists, conformists, and most importantly, idiots.

Still sick grr. I'd like to write something more coherent on the subject when I'm better.
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Posted 2008-03-12, 04:01 PM in reply to Atnas's post starting "You mean like figuring it out? Uh yeah..."
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You mean like figuring it out? Uh yeah lol people have.

I've done a lot of pondering today concerning this and believe it makes perfect sense to go the route of thinking that the United States Government not only orchestrated 9/11, but that the cause of the madness is Freemasonry.

Freemasonry, whether you accept what the Freemasons tell you or what history tells you, conflict with my beliefs and view of a better world on almost every account. I'd like to say my world view is perfect, nolie.

First, to be initiated you have to believe in a Supreme being. Nonono. We could end right there. A monotheistic religion is possibly one of the worst. Coupled with the fact that it seems to me that they took all of the monotheistic religions and combined them into a twisted and corrupt occult, this really troubles me.

What I suspect they thought was this: "We all claim to worship the one true God. If all our God's are the only one, it's the same god in every religion." Which is true, to an extent. X=1 Y=1 X=Y Notice how their object of worship, Baphomet, looks like a fusion of the monotheistic idols?

Now, the Freemasons were started by the Knights Templar. The Knights Templar are a pretty fucked up group. There's reason to believe they even assassinated JFK, given he was willing to re-instate the specie. They don't want that, see, they want complete control of the currency. As it is today, one source controls the world's currency.

Then there's the "New World Order"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Wor...racy_theory%29

I like the point made that the point of 9/11 was to get us to surrender our basic rights for security, in turn allowing them to walk all over us.

While I don't necessarily believe in any screwy single deity, I do believe there can be semi corporeal beings such as Baphomet. We don't really know shit, and existence isn't even a sure thing. Why do we have to limit what we accept to what we know is true?

They have such a strong grip over our country no candidate elected in will ever even have a chance to uproot them.

Not to mention this is marked a conspiracy. And there are some bad attachments to that word. People will argue that there are faulty sources. Could not the sources that are marked as fake be made by the people who they were exposing? Think, blackmailing yourself with blatantly false material only to discredit your opponents.

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But I'm biased. Biased in a good way, I think. I'm against all forms of organized religion and government as we know it. Asamin pointed out to me that my own belief in the perfect society could never exist in America. True. So true. My anarchist and anti religious viewpoints will never exist in this mass of writhing dogmatists, conformists, and most importantly, idiots.

Still sick grr. I'd like to write something more coherent on the subject when I'm better.

I'm not saying you are wrong, because you might be completely right, but at the very least you are batshiat insane.
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Posted 2008-03-12, 01:03 PM in reply to Atnas's post starting "There's evidence that Bush, Kerry, and..."
That has to be one of the weirdest things I have ever herd about the government!
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Posted 2008-03-11, 08:57 PM in reply to Adrenachrome's post starting "What was to gain?"
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What was to gain?
Tons! Having a spacegoat is the perfect thing for an authoritarian ruler. It's an easy excuse to tighten laws and limit liberties, such as the USA PATRIOT ACT (that's all an acronym I guess?).

I don't know if it was planned by someone in the government... but it's possible it was known and allowed to happen. I mean honestly, it was like perfect for Bush. Everyone instantly rallied behind him without a second thought, and he was able to invade Iraq and finish what his father started. (Did you know the Bush family is in bed with Saudi Arabian oil royalty? Did you know said royalty hated Saddam Hussein? No joke.)

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Posted 2008-03-11, 10:06 PM in reply to Grav's post starting "Tons! Having a spacegoat is the perfect..."
Grаν¡tоnЅurgе said:
spacegoat
I want a spacegoat.

But seriously, I'm not really sure. I find it hard to believe that if it were an inside job, they would actually get away with it. I'm also not big on conspiracy theories. I don't doubt that Bush WOULD have done it if he knew he could get away with it, but honestly I think he just got lucky.

Most likely, the "terrorists" knew that Bush would give them exactly what they want, jihad. They WANTED us to retaliate. This is the holy war that they want.
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Posted 2008-03-11, 10:37 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "I want a spacegoat. But seriously,..."
Haha, spacegoat. A little dsylecix today.
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Posted 2008-03-11, 10:38 PM in reply to Grav's post starting "Haha, spacegoat. A little dsylecix..."
That's probably one of the more humerous typos I've seen.
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Posted 2008-03-12, 07:56 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "I want a spacegoat. But seriously,..."
I'd assume it's safe to say that Bush didn't pull this off, and he is the scapegoat.














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Posted 2008-03-12, 11:44 AM in reply to D3V's post starting "I'd assume it's safe to say that Bush..."
You mean spacegoat.
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Posted 2008-03-12, 11:58 AM in reply to Grav's post starting "You mean spacegoat."
No, you mean spaceghost..

I mean, President Cheney probably orchastrated the entire plot very maticulously.














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Posted 2008-03-12, 07:11 PM in reply to Grav's post starting "Tons! Having a spacegoat is the perfect..."
Grаν¡tоnЅurgе said:
Tons! Having a spacegoat is the perfect thing for an authoritarian ruler. It's an easy excuse to tighten laws and limit liberties, such as the USA PATRIOT ACT (that's all an acronym I guess?).

I don't know if it was planned by someone in the government... but it's possible it was known and allowed to happen. I mean honestly, it was like perfect for Bush. Everyone instantly rallied behind him without a second thought, and he was able to invade Iraq and finish what his father started. (Did you know the Bush family is in bed with Saudi Arabian oil royalty? Did you know said royalty hated Saddam Hussein? No joke.)

An excuse to massivly increase the size of government. Good point.



That all?

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Posted 2008-03-12, 07:24 PM in reply to Adrenachrome's post starting "An excuse to massivly increase the size..."
I think that's all that's needed, my nonsense about the government worshipping a final fantasy summon aside.
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Posted 2008-03-12, 08:08 PM in reply to Atnas's post starting "I think that's all that's needed, my..."
I am well aware of the freemasons, I know a handfull of them, and they are the nicest most generous people I have ever known.

Grav does have a solid point though, This is the thing that gets me, this is the groundwork for all the things I think are wrong with the government, It's size, the interjection into our personal lives.

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Posted 2008-03-13, 03:52 PM in reply to Atnas's post starting "I think that's all that's needed, my..."
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I think that's all that's needed, my nonsense about the government worshipping a final fantasy summon aside.
Wow! Now you leave the idea of the god and move on to the summon. Want more info? That summon was a level 8 summon in FFIII for the DS.
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Posted 2008-03-13, 07:06 PM in reply to Asamin's post starting "Wow! Now you leave the idea of the god..."
Actually I've changed my mind. I believe the US is as despicable as the conspiracies reveal, however I mildly support America for it.
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