Gun laws?

Knives? Swords? It doesn't matter. That might work against a single person, but you can't walk into a mall and kill a bunch of people with a knife.

Statistics show that countries with gun restrictions have lower murder rate and equal crime rate. It might not bring the crime rate down, but it does lower the murder rate, which means it is worth it to me.

To each his own. Guns won't be outlawed in this country in my lifetime. You can cite whatever statistics or studies you want, being deprived our guns is distinctly unamerican.

Unamerican... hmm. I think that word is overused. Being "American" doesn't mean the same thing today that it did 200+ years ago... there's just no way it could. When this country began, slavery was okay, and steam power (much less electricity!) had not even been invented yet. Classical economics still worked, and it took 4 months for ships to cross the Atlantic. There were no assault rifles years ago. How can you even compare that system of government to today's?

Okay. Taking away guns would distinctly contrast the feelings and beliefs of many of our people.

Many of our people are stupid, though.

True. However, there's nothing wrong with responsible gun use. People are so willing to give up rights for a tiny bit more safety. Fuck that .

Eric Thompson, owner of Topglock.com, is the goto guy if you need guns, especially the widely loved Glock handgun. The gentleman who killed a half-dozen people at NIU got some of his supplies at Topglock. The guy who killed all those kids at Virginia Tech last year also got some of his armaments at Topglock.com. Topglock: Your specialist in tragedy.


This man supplied some of the weaponry used in two major college mass murders. He is eager to continue supplying these weapons in the hopes that someday a good guy will shoot a badguy.

They're having a motto contest for Topglock.com. Here's my entry:

"Online Gun Suppliers don't kill innocent college students ..... Crazy guys kill innocent college students. The Online Gun Suppliers just supply them with the tools they need"

Do you have a better motto? Maybe a jingle or a limerick?

TGSCOM Inc is the name of the company owned by Thompson. TGSCOM owns about 100 different web sites, all selling guns with different advertising angles.

Thompson, of course, is cooperating with police. There have been a number of instances where Thompson has helped the police to trace down the source of a weapon, or to verify documentation on a weapon used in some crime or another. He has helped put criminals behind bars in so doing, according to his web site. It is probably fairly routine for him to have to supply documentation after the fact in murders, mass slaying, and so on.

He claims, on his site (no, you won't find a link here, go find it yourself), that he wants some day to learn that one of his guns was used to stop a tragic crime like the mass murders at Virginia Tech or NIU.

Did you catch this? If you're only paying half attention to this, please stop now and re-read all of the above and see what conclusion you can draw from it.

Eric Thompson has 100 or so web sites selling guns. He happens to have sold guns to the killers in these two major school shootings. It must be true that this guy is providing guns to thousands and thousands, and thousands of people, right?

And at this time, when the press goes to interview him, he does NOT have a list of honorable and noble uses to which his guns have been put. He does not have a list of cases where a mass murderer was about to start his slaying, and an owner of a TGSCOM-provided Glock whipped out his or her firearm and stopped the slaying.

He does have a litany of cases where he cooperated with the police in helping them run down a criminal who used a gun purchased from TGSCOM. This involves supplying paperwork required by law. Paperwork that if the NRA had its way, would not be required by law.

Eric does not have any evidence that the widespread distribution of firearms has any effect other than spreading tragedy and mayhem.

Eric Thompson should be stopped, don't you think?

"Were not just the guys who sell the guns.... we're the guys who make guns possible. Getyourglock.com....

-Greg Laden

Knives? Swords? It doesn't matter. That might work against a single person, but you can't walk into a mall and kill a bunch of people with a knife.

KNIVES LINKED TO DARTMOUTH SLAYINGS
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-42982766.html


"There's something in criminology called the valve theory: If you shut off one avenue, another avenue opens up," said Andrew Karmen, a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice. "If it's more difficult to get guns, people might turn to knives."
http://www.galleryofguns.com/shootin...es.asp?id=1829

A convicted killer who died in Folsom prison last month has been linked by DNA tests to the unsolved knife slayings of six people in the East Bay in the 1970s and early '80s, authorities said yesterday.


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...9/MN167984.DTL

Mamoru Takuma, who is standing trial for the murder of eight students in a knife attack at Ikeda Primary School in Ikeda, Osaka Prefecture, said Thursday he had thought often about committing mass murder since his...
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2...6-10024415_ITM

A Ukrainian immigrant accused in the slayings of six relatives was found hanged in his jail cell early today
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-331150.html

'We Did It' letters eyed in NY stabbings
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080307/ap_on_go_co/times_square_blast_letters;_ylt=AtH50Zhu1gHhjkZo_j .uuJ6s0NUE


You could kill a grip of people with a knife, you could walk the isles at wal mart slitting people's throats just as quick as shooting them, hell and not even make a sound.

You could lock a classroom door and start slicing people up, and the people in the next room wouldn't have a clue, hell atleast if you were shooting people many more would be alerted by the noise.

So why not just outlaw all weapons and make a mandatory self-defense course for all?

Oh, in related argument, I read on CNN today that College Students in some school in Texas I believe are pushing for the right to bear weapons in the classroom, I for one find this appalling and hope that nothing gets passed like this, I don't want to have some shithead having the right to have a gun on campus, because after that gets passed the kids will have them in the high schools etc etc. Fuck that.

That right to bear arms in classrooms is bullshit. It would cause more chaos. Instead of hearing about the brawls in schools, we'd have more frequent school shootings.

Oh, most definately.

I totally agree, here is the link where I read the article at.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/14/campus.guns/index.html

Cincinnati student is leading advocate for college kids to be armed At least nine states are considering legislation to allow students to carry weapons Police chief: "I don't think the answer to bullets flying is to send more bullets flying" "I see carrying a concealed firearm as a kind of life insurance policy," professor says

Stupid fucking kids and professors. Just think about it, that would be the worst idea, ever.

I often provide this example when stating why I believe we should uphold the constitution in its word for word form and continue the right to bare arms. Its a two part deal so bare with me...

If you make guns illegal, the bad guys will still have them...and there is nothing you or I can do about it because we dont want to go to jail for getting one too in order to defend ourselves.

With guns being legal, I like the idea of being in a location where some madman comes in with a gun waving around killing people. Only because I know their is a real good chance that someone else in their has one too and is probrably a better shot with it than the madman.

It's bear not bare. Don't you know they meant we have the right to own a pair of bear arms?

Okay I know lame joke...

I'm sorry I was not aware I was in the presence of an "engwish" teacher. From now on I will do spelling and grammer checks just for you.

We have the right to defend ourselves. No way I'm keeping myself unarmed, when the Zionist agents or criminals could invade my home at any moment.

Do you have nightmares about Jews busting into your house and killing you in your sleep? You sound downright paranoid.

Well, now we have kids teacher's in Texas yielding guns in a few schools, I don't have an actual link to a story, but I remember hearing it on the news. It's only a matter of time before teachers are allowed to have them on all campuses, as well as on college campuses. And hell, if everyone can use the same flawed logic to get it to that point, every kid/student/teacher/faculty member should just be able to bring a gun wherever they want. (Fuck the United States, fucking dumb arrogant, ignorant peice of shit rednecks)