Would we be better off, if...?

If there were no abortions there would be 40 MILLION more people in the U.S.

There are already too many people in the country as it is so I'm definitely for abortion.

If there were no abortions there would be 40 MILLION more people in the U.S. There are already too many people in the country as it is so I'm definitely for abortion.

Liewise.


I was the biggest supporter of Bush, eventhough he had massive scewups. I still think he would have done better then Kerry, but thats based more on a personal opinion and not fact. I still think that going to war was a bad idea, but now that we did, i say let him finish what he started. You cant just go into another country, bascially destroy it, start to rebuild and then say fuck it were out. I dont like the idea of our boys being hurt over there, but what else should we do, pull out and let Iraq turn into shit. Plus, we need the oil haha.

Liewise. I was the biggest supporter of Bush, eventhough he had massive scewups. I still think he would have done better then Kerry, but thats based more on a personal opinion and not fact. I still think that going to war was a bad idea, but now that we did, i say let him finish what he started. You cant just go into another country, bascially destroy it, start to rebuild and then say fuck it were out. I dont like the idea of our boys being hurt over there, but what else should we do, pull out and let Iraq turn into shit. Plus, we need the oil haha.

Taking their Oil is only delaying the inevitable, we're still relying on a nonrenewable source of energy as it's still believed to be formed via ancient organic materials, the odds of finding petroleum on another planet after we've run Earth dry are low to begin with. We'd long have been cured of our Oil addiction by the time we likely found another source of it.

Regarding Iraq and such, I'd rather we halfassed a mistake rather than stuck to our guns and finish the judgement we've rendered over most of the country.

Regarding Iraq and such, I'd rather we halfassed a mistake rather than stuck to our guns and finish the judgement we've rendered over most of the country.

I agree with this sentiment too.

I don't think we should continue to occupy that country. I do think we owe them massive amounts of money to help them rebuild.

You cant just go into another country, bascially destroy it, start to rebuild and then say fuck it were out.

I agree with this sentiment.

I agree with this sentiment.

Look at Vietnam. We left and they're doing relatively great. We can't hope to bring Iraq back together. That's something only -they- can do, and by the looks of it, the iraqi people in general do not care enough to step up and do something great. We just need to leave because they do not have the heart to make a stable democracy. Being murdered and ruled is what they seem to favor.

Look at Vietnam. We left and they're doing relatively great. We can't hope to bring Iraq back together. That's something only -they- can do, and by the looks of it, the iraqi people in general do not care enough to step up and do something great. We just need to leave because they do not have the heart to make a stable democracy. Being murdered and ruled is what they seem to favor.

Alternately, the only real word we have from that direction would be via the media, so we're subject to their bias and opinions regarding events.

I would be less than truthful if I said that I trusted the media to report the news in an unbiased and fair manner.

Alternately, the only real word we have from that direction would be via the media, so we're subject to their bias and opinions regarding events. I would be less than truthful if I said that I trusted the media to report the news in an unbiased and fair manner.

Well, when the news is coming from a variety of sources and they all pretty much agree on the facts I feel fairly safe with that.

Well, when the news is coming from a variety of sources and they all pretty much agree on the facts I feel fairly safe with that.

I've never really trusted the media being completely seperate from the government, as you'd not find a better tool to manipulate public opinion. Perhaps I'm a little more paranoid than others, but I certainly don't take our government at face value.

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Yea. Oh yea, and about information being right ...ask SYG and others who have been there. I did on the Dragoon forums and he said "they hate to love us and love to hate us" or something like that. It seems to be a minority that appreciate what we're doing. Let them settle this shit themselves ...we can't win their heart. That's already been proven.

Yeah, I hear that. I'm not saying that I don't believe what's going on over there, but I don't think we're being told everything that we need to know.

Maybe? Who catres..

Look at Vietnam. We left and they're doing relatively great. We can't hope to bring Iraq back together. That's something only -they- can do, and by the looks of it, the iraqi people in general do not care enough to step up and do something great. We just need to leave because they do not have the heart to make a stable democracy. Being murdered and ruled is what they seem to favor.

Like I said, I'd rather we left but poured a bit of money into it.

Yea. Oh yea, and about information being right ...ask SYG and others who have been there. I did on the Dragoon forums and he said "they hate to love us and love to hate us" or something like that. It seems to be a minority that appreciate what we're doing. Let them settle this shit themselves ...we can't win their heart. That's already been proven.