Jenova & Sephiroth

The article on Jenova seen on Wikipedia claims that the Final Fantasy VII Ultimania Omega Guide, officially endorsed by Square, indicates that Sephiroth’s will won out over Jenova’s and that events that transpired correlate to his own ambitions utilizing Jenova’s powers. This is not only ludicrous, but it is simply a pandering to the legions of Seph fanboys who pollute our humble little world. I provide the one major clear fact in direct opposition to the UOG’s assertions.

1) The Jenova Reunion
As we all saw in Shinra HQ, the container where Jenova’s corpse/body was stored was clearly knocked outwards, leading to the only sensible conclusion that Jenova’s body itself was moving from Shinra to a location of its designation. If the UOG is to be believed, Sephiroth is somehow causing her to do this. He has forced his cosmic viral space monster of immense telepathic, shapeshifting and magical power to emulate his form and murder those in the Headquarters. Now, let’s see this sensibly.


How the flying fuck is Sephiroth doing this? What overwhelming mastery of time and space has he gained in order to reach all the way out of his 5-year rest in Northern Crater and to Midgar and then encourage Jenova to awaken? The answer is simple. HE CAN’T. Sephiroth’s only contact with Jenova was when he ripped her head off in the Mt. Nibel Reactor and then she was still in a dormant state thanks to her cryo-freeze. Is it possible in that time he somehow left a lasting impression on her he would later use to make her his tool? If that’s the case they’re making, then the story is not only weak, it’s downright stupid.

We know from Ifalna’s testament to Professor Gast that Jenova possesses a predatory power to conceal her true form, take on the appearance of another (the Cetra, Sephiroth) and not only reach into their mind to pry away pieces of their memory and persona to help feed it intentions, but also implant fake memories and construct fake persona in others. This skill was utilized against the Cetra and effectively fooled them all till it was too late. Sephiroth, being composed primarily of Jenova Cells by which Jenova can activate her mental powers, is just as susceptible if not more so to her influence on his mind.

Presumably, when Jenova awakened and called upon her seemingly infinite reach to anything that has even the most minuscule portion of her in it, she found Sephiroth, her best chance at accomplishing her viral instinct to multiply, infect and destroy. Thus, she took on his likeness and utilized his powers. One can make a weak argument that at this time when she attempted to use him, he somehow transplanted his own will (which does not physically exist in her at all) his own genuine will over the mimicked will and persona Jenova had adopted. It’s not like she really absorbed his personality or powers. She is replicating them and it is a pretty flawed concept to say that Sephiroth somehow took control of this fake personality she copied to obtain dominance over her.

Yet another counter argument filled with holes is that “Jenova and everyone ‘came’ to Sephiroth.” Well, my dearest fanboy, the reason they went to Sephiroth is because Sephiroth is in what appears to be a hibernation in Northern Crater. Jenova and the ‘clones’ of Sephiroth with Jenova Cells went to him because it is logical. They are mobile and he Is not. Also, Jenova might be seeking the gathered Lifestream there through her apparent instinctive knowledge as how best to corrupt and infect. So, yeah, Jenova and the others went to Sephiroth because they could all move and Jenova sensed the power of Northern Crater which is entirely in Jenova’s power as er power does indeed seem nearly limitless.

The final counter-argument with any possible chance is that Sephiroth diffused his will into Lifestream when he was taking his long bath on the way to his new big hole in the ground he called home. There is zero evidence of this if he did and more importantly, there is no indication Jenova’s body/corpse ever came in contact with either Lifestream or Mako while in Shinra HQ.

All throughout the game the Sephiroth persona emulated by Jenova seeks to become a ‘god’ yet the probability the Planet would survive is about 1% and this massive destruction is Jenova’s intent. Also, if the Planet did survive and Jenova stayed with Sephiroth at its core as the energy of the Planet flowed into them and basically made them the Planet, then it would serve Jenova’s purpose because now she would have en entire planet infected to its core and have a planetary ship with which to find new planets to infect thereby coinciding with her viral nature.

This is all I have to say on the subject and any reasonable counters to it are welcome. Shit like “OMG! But Seph is so much cooler111!!!” is not a reasonable counter for you Sephiroth fanboy blockheads.

lol@you

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This is the biggest shit I have ever not given.

I can imagine you writing an argumentative essay for college on this subject and everyone ignoring you for the rest of your life.

Way to prove your obvious superior intelligence and maturity, guys. I could take the part of dignifed silence because well, every response I heard was pretty weak and indicative of a persona not passed the level of a kindergardener, but I think I'll speak up in my own defense. I enjoy writing and I enjoy discussion and I enjoy debating. I don't enjoy this bullshit. And that might not matter to you, but damn guys grow up.

It'd be a bit better if you were actually arguing with someone. You have to consider your audience.

hahahaha nice!