William Birkin vs. Dante

I found that William is quite similar to Beowulf in DMC3. Powerful but slow, and without the projectiles. There are two ways to fight Beowulf. Get up close, dodge when he attacks, and then counter. Since William's attacks are generally slow, I don't think would be difficult to dodge with Dante's agility.

Beowulf also goes on all four in his second form, too, and is much more powerful (since he is much bigger). That doesn't stop Dante from attacking... this is basically what would happen when Slow meets Quick... If the slow one cannot touch the quick one, no matter how powerful he is, it will be no use.

I found that William is quite similar to Beowulf in DMC3. Powerful but slow, and without the projectiles. There are two ways to fight Beowulf. Get up close, dodge when he attacks, and then counter. Since William's attacks are generally slow, I don't think would be difficult to dodge with Dante's agility.

What's the second way...?

You keep forgetting William's endurance. Dante would have to use some pretty powerful attacks. Also, don't forget Birkin's final form. He's at the peak of ugliness, and strength. I really don't think Dante could dodge all of Birkin's attacks near tha mass fo tentacles and spikes that is Birkin.

Beowulf also goes on all four in his second form, too, and is much more powerful (since he is much bigger). That doesn't stop Dante from attacking... this is basically what would happen when Slow meets Quick... If the slow one cannot touch the quick one, no matter how powerful he is, it will be no use.

Very true. However, this Beowolf isn't a mass of mutation. It appears that when Birkin's body has taken severe damage or reached its limit, it mutates more. Like regenerating a lost body part, but instead of coming back the way it was, it comes back more powerful. Dante can run all day and unless he can totally destroy Birkin's form in one or two HUGE attacks, it will be impossible to win for either side.

Pics for people who don't have the pleasure of knowing Mr. Birkin.

Ist Form

(He eventually was stunned and fell off the bridge you were on)

2nd Form

(He began bleeding badly and fell down and didn't move)

3rd Form

(Bleed was coming out rather badly and he left)

4th Form

(He fell down and began mutating into his next form)

5th Form

(Blood began to shoot wildly from the top of his head and he fell down)

6th Form

(Blood was coming out and his body began to.....soften? Anyway, it began to soften into a less solid mass and it solidified after it had slid for a foot or two. Then, he somehow kept coming until the train detonated and not only blew Birkin's body up, but buried it under the wreckage)

There you have it.

What's the second way...? You keep forgetting William's endurance. Dante would have to use some pretty powerful attacks. Also, don't forget Birkin's final form. He's at the peak of ugliness, and strength. I really don't think Dante could dodge all of Birkin's attacks near tha mass fo tentacles and spikes that is Birkin.

The second way would be the lame way you hated so much, of course. Guns, Rockets, far away.

In DMC3 Mission 19, Dante has fought a demon about 10 times the strength and size of William's final form. The demon has tentacles, and can regenerate (in the cutscene, it sticks the cut-off arm right back to itself, and it heals).

Then what happened? Dante sent it back to oblivion. (Some other things happened, but I don't want to give the plot away)

Can Dante dodge William's attack? Yes, I'm certain. By the way, William's strength is at the peak... in the human realm, probably. Even in RE2, a lot of Willy's move cannot instantly kill a human, let alone Dante. Remember, Dante has vitality way above a normal human. He can get his heart pierced through, and the next second he will be walking around with that sword sticking around his chest.

Even in RE2, a lot of Willy's move cannot instantly kill a human, let alone Dante.

That's a pretty lame answer... I mean, how many games do you play where it is that realistic? The game wouldn't be much fun if it was very realistic and it only took one hit to kill you. Birkin's claws can punch through solid metal, nevermind human flesh. So, the point means nothing that in the game you don't die in one hit from Birkin. In this battle, we're assuming they now have real-life qualities and that thus, Claire could not take a claw to the chest and keep on going.

I sense that this will be a pointless circle. Sure, i believe whole-heartedly that William could destroy Dante, but the lack of speed and projectiles is a major weakness. So, Dante could probably avoid any attack, and while he might not be able to completely destroy Birkin, he would certainly cause more damage to Birkin than Birkin could do to him, seeing as how Dante is all fast and stuff.

Dante wins with T.K.O.


This is very frustrating. Dante destroyed my favorite character ever, Kain, and now he beat another one of my favorites. Kuja and Seymour wouldn't do much because they're not any fast than Birkin and while they're calling upon magic, Dante could shoot the hell out of them.... I am out of ideas. For now.