Zelaron needs changes

What thread view bug?

As for slaynish, anyone can see that he posted about 25 border-line meaningless posts the other day for the sole purpose of sprinting to 4000. If he hadn't, then all he would have gotten was a meaningless threat like so many others have gotten. As for the condition of the staff, there aren't really enough members to try to fix it... I had proposed to Chruser the idea of a general election for the few staff positions really needed at the time, but he didn't like it, so what am I to do? As for bypassing the BS filter, I delete deserving posts manually, so you're better off legitimately expanding your post. As for members, Chruser payed for advertising on Something Awful, not to mention Taco's relentless quest for more mindless members; advertising is Chruser's call, and he doesn't seem to have much to say about it. I don't know anything about an all caps rule, but common sense should tell you that that's rude...

The primary purpose of my position is technical maintenance of the board and weighing in on actually important decisions, however as the only admin who actually visits everyday or posts much, I'm in the position of having to do all the administrative stuff. If you don't like the way I handle other people's jobs, bitch to Chruser to be more active or to consent to a general election.

I don't see whats so different now from 2 years ago. I don't see some of the old members but I do see newer members who are just as active. Besides that its always been like this. Well I can't say that but, since I've been here. I don't think its going to die, just not expand much. We have a damn good gaming forum here, lots of information, lots of helpfull people.
As for slaynish, I told him so, and he just sat there saying, Hey I'm not breaking the rules, if you think I am, report it. I didn't even have to report it. People like him mj, are the ones that destroy a forum, people that don't contribute at all.
Umm, may I suggest Penguin be de-modded. He's not active.
Also, I've been looking around at some other forums, it seems they are all worried about the same thing...I doubt were going to die off. Comparitivley this is alot nicer forum than some.

What thread view bug?

Sorry. I should've been a little clearer on that. By the thread view bug, I meant next to the number of posts in a thread, there's a little counter for how many times it has been viewed. It doesn't seem to work properly. Half the time the count just doesn't seem to go up, and the other half, it seems to jump by a few numbers. For example: http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35577 I made that thread for this puropse. I clicked on it six times, yet under views, it says it's only had one view. Now I don't know if this is on purpose, since I'm one member clicking on it multiple times, or if it's a bug, but I don't think it was like that in VB2. I liked it better when it counted every time it was clicked, personally.

As for slaynish, anyone can see that he posted about 25 border-line meaningless posts the other day for the sole purpose of sprinting to 4000. If he hadn't, then all he would have gotten was a meaningless threat like so many others have gotten.

But it's not really even all that much. I'm sure I've had 20 or so posts today. I mean, I can understand you wanting to keep out spam and all, but he's one of the last few members still active. Seriously, the number of active members at the moment may not even be in double digits. Spam isn't so bad that it needs control, and in my opinion, Slaynish wasn't even spamming that bad. But that's not my call; it's yours. Either way, I'd much rather stick to conventional rules, and get maybe a one-day ban or a warning on the basis that I spammed rather than have my post count removed. As I said above, the post count feature adds another dimension to posting, and it's not all bad. If anything, it bring out a little competition, which may lead to a little bit of spam. If it gets excessive, then it should be the mods job to keep it under control, and warn the spammers. That's what should keep spam out, not the threat of us having our post count removed. But really, I see any activity, even spam, as good activity; especially in the general chat thread.

As for the condition of the staff, there aren't really enough members to try to fix it... I had proposed to Chruser the idea of a general election for the few staff positions really needed at the time, but he didn't like it, so what am I to do?

Well, I don't know what to say. I guess this is more addressed to Chruser than you, WW, since he has the final say-so in this matter, but isn't their a few changes here and their to bring a little more activity to the staff? I honestly believe it would lighten up the forum a lot if that were ever to happen, plus if you ever used my idea, we could get more members that way.

As for bypassing the BS filter, I delete deserving posts manually, so you're better off legitimately expanding your post.

But the 7-letter rule is seriously a huge nuissance. I use some little phrase at the bottom of a lot of my posts to bypass it. It just doesn't make sense half the time. If you're manually deleting posts anyway, why not remove the rule altogether, seeing as at the very least, one of your members has such a huge issue with it? I mean, it doesn't make sense when you're in the chat section, and you just want to say "lol," or in the test section, and would just like to say "test," or doing a one-word story or a word association game or something. Hell, I can't even think of a seven-letter preposition, so in some cases the little bullshit phrases at the end are required.

As for members, Chruser payed for advertising on Something Awful, not to mention Taco's relentless quest for more mindless members; advertising is Chruser's call, and he doesn't seem to have much to say about it.

Well then, I have directed everything about advertising in my original post in this thread at Chruser.

I don't know anything about an all caps rule, but common sense should tell you that that's rude...

Rude as it may be, sometimes it's just easier to post in all caps, not because caps-lock is on, but because it adds a little more voice to your post.

The primary purpose of my position is technical maintenance of the board and weighing in on actually important decisions, however as the only admin who actually visits everyday or posts much, I'm in the position of having to do all the administrative stuff. If you don't like the way I handle other people's jobs, bitch to Chruser to be more active or to consent to a general election.

I don't have anything against you personally, WW. On the technical side, aside from that one thing I mentioned above, I think you've done a splendid job. Zelaron looks pretty, and I haven't noticed any obvious bugs or anything. It's just that I think you could be a little more laxed on the rules, and perhaps take some of our ideas into consideration. I don't know whether or not you have, but it doesn't seem like it to me.

I don't see whats so different now from 2 years ago. I don't see some of the old members but I do see newer members who are just as active. Besides that its always been like this. Well I can't say that but, since I've been here. I don't think its going to die, just not expand much. We have a damn good gaming forum here, lots of information, lots of helpfull people.

Well, Zelaron had gotten incredibly active during the gap where you were gone. I mean incredibly active. I could go take a piss, and I would have 8 new posts waiting to be replied to. And by the time I got done replying to those, I would have 10 more. And the problem is, if it doesn't expand it will die. Soon the less dedicated members will get bored and start leaving. The more dedicated members will have less and less to talk about, and even they will eventually lose their patience and start checking Zelaron less and less. Eventually, it'll just be here, with hardly any posts, unless we do get some new members. If newer members arrive, then the old members will have reason to constantly visit here.

As for slaynish, I told him so, and he just sat there saying, Hey I'm not breaking the rules, if you think I am, report it. I didn't even have to report it. People like him mj, are the ones that destroy a forum, people that don't contribute at all.

But Slaynish does contribute, though. Perhaps he spams, but 98% of my posts are spam as well. Whether you like him or not, he brings a unique personality to the forum which adds flavor.

Also, I've been looking around at some other forums, it seems they are all worried about the same thing...I doubt were going to die off. Comparitivley this is alot nicer forum than some.

Yea, but unfortunately being nice isn't going to keep us going necessarily.

Against is a seven letter preposition.

Against is a seven letter preposition.

Okay, that's one. What about an article?

I'm pretty sure that a, an, and the are the only articles in the English language.

I'm pretty sure that a, an, and the are the only articles in the English language.

Exactly. So in a one word story, you couldn't use any articles.

I don't have a problem w/ slaynish most of the time. Its just that day, it was blatently obvious he was spamming for the sole purpose of spamming. No one cares if he gets to 4000 posts, and when he's calling me a "Im a badass, but really a pussy" type person. I don't see how he got that from any of my posts. But w/e.

To bad I missed that overly active period. What exactly do you think spurred that? Thats the question you really need to be asking, Why was it so unactive when I joined, then active when I left, now its unactive again? Whats that you say? NO! I will not leave.

Soon the less dedicated members will get bored and start leaving. The more dedicated members will have less and less to talk about, and even they will eventually lose their patience and start checking Zelaron less and less. Eventually, it'll just be here, with hardly any posts, unless we do get some new members. If newer members arrive, then the old members will have reason to constantly visit here.

You do have a damn good point there. So we need new memebers. Hmmm, I suggest setting up a membership recruiting commity, anyone can join as long as you will actually put forth some energy. The members that go to school would be especially helpfull. Tell the gamers at you school about us, via word of mouth, or a flyer on a bulletin board. Do it discreetly if you don't wanna look dorky. Anyone that goes to Halo2 partys. Things of that sort.
Maybe we should get a bot set up and put it in a chatroom of Yahoo! I know thats demeaning but hey. Or maybe Yahoo groups could be helpfull?

How about we set up a contest of some sort and advertise it over the internet. That would bring in tons of people. It would have to be hard, something to do w/ games, and not avalible to current members.
Blah Blah Blah!!! Zelaron.com giving away a free PSP... Blah Blah! See Zelaron.com for more details.
I'm sure someone could make something spiffy for the main page to lure them into the forums. Then have a Offical Contest Thread or something.
My ideas.

Edit:

Just realize since I've been back, we don't have a "main page" thats nifty

heh

WoW is obviously the new D2 as far as luring new members in goes. I think since D2 has gone out the window, we obviously need to find a niche again to draw in new members.

The problem is, that everyone and their mothers have a WoW site right now. We need to add something that theirs don't have. It won't be the same like we had with D2, as Blizzard is likely to crack down on WoW Hacking sites (which is obviously what drew 99% of our D2 members here).

If our niche isn't WoW, then so be it. But we need to think of an effective method of drawing people to the site. The Flame Forum is dead, and our community (while some are talented for it) is not exactly the type who would support a serious Flame Forum that would attract people. To be frank, it would likely draw people that most of us wouldn't really care to associate with anyway.

It's rather difficult to think of something to draw new members, however.

I don't have a problem w/ slaynish most of the time. Its just that day, it was blatently obvious he was spamming for the sole purpose of spamming. No one cares if he gets to 4000 posts, and when he's calling me a "Im a badass, but really a pussy" type person. I don't see how he got that from any of my posts. But w/e.

Well, the reason that i said you're that kind of person is becuase you just seem like a real dick. I dont hate you, i dont really dislike you, but i dont exactly like you. I just think you're some kind of online companion that i've gotta be with, like in a classroom. You're just a dick, face it. Not exactly a bad thing, but you just are.

Also, it seems a lot of people are really raffled up about the post count thing. I asked Sov if he thinks that its going to be re-set, and he seems really against that. I was suprised that my issue was actually posted about, though.

MJ, i totally agree. I really do think you would make for a perfect mod or sup mod even. Admin im not so sure, because im not 100% sure you know exactly what your doing. I dont know if you get the same privladges as I got when i was webmaster of a forum i created once. If so, then you can seriously fuck something up accidently. Its a big risk but i just dont know. I've always wanted to be a DII mod, im a skilled player, i'm rich, i can host giveaways, i know tons of runeword combinations, im sure i can learn about the other tid-bits of diablo that i dont know. I think its becuase the staff is age-nazi's .

Seriously though, half the things i say you should disregard, i think you should be able to tell when i'm just bullshitting myself, and when i'm serious.