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Posted 2004-09-10, 05:43 PM in reply to symnzXx's post starting "OH MY FUCKING GOD, ARE YOU JOKING? ..."
HAHAHA hand of heaven, there has been tons of evidence of stuff more than 10,000 years old. The world is about 2.3478456 million years old(just an estimate).
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Posted 2004-09-10, 05:52 PM in reply to w00t.ace's post starting "HAHAHA hand of heaven, there has been..."
If it was that old, it would turn moldy.
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Posted 2004-09-10, 06:56 PM in reply to w00t.ace's post starting "HAHAHA hand of heaven, there has been..."
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HAHAHA hand of heaven, there has been tons of evidence of stuff more than 10,000 years old. The world is about 2.3478456 million years old(just an estimate).
Actually, it's closer to 6 billion years old.
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Posted 2004-09-11, 11:00 AM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Actually, it's closer to 6 billion..."
mjordan2nd said:
Actually, it's closer to 6 billion years old.
The actual figure is about 4,550 million years, give or take 70 million. This was put forward by a certain Clair Patterson (male). He gave up using Earth rocks to find out how old the world was, but used meteorites, assuming - correctly as it know turns out - that they were the, if you like, left over bits from the earliest days of the solar system, from the days when it had just been created, and probably, not that long after the creation of the Universe.

How did the Universe begin though?

I'm gonna have to go with the Big Bang theory, and say big and sudden release of energy and matter...etc. You can imagine, no?

As for God, being an atheist I've gotta say that the minds of men started to believe in a supernatural being that created everything. This would, to them, explain some of the mysteries of life, such as, who made all this? As I have said in another post elsewhere, belief creates things. If the/se person/people who believed in the supernatural being persuaded enough people about it, than the idea would quickly spread, like grass fires on dry moors. And then, overenthusiatic people might start to worship their supernatural being, going under the impressions that if someone/thing could create what is around them, then they could also destroy it if something upset them. I'd say the idea of God was created sometime around/after the Stone Age, when people believed anything - take trepanning as an example. Someone has a bad headache, the medicine men think of bad spirits, so cut a hole through the skull to let out bad spirits. Either v. religious - i.e devil etc. - or v. superstitious - spirits says it all.

I've strayed a bit, oh well. So just imagine a sudden explosion of energy and matter, enough to create things, and still make things exand even now.

Also, I would like to comment on the matrix idea - one big test tube - who or what then created the Universe in which the test tube and those who's science experiment are in???

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Posted 2004-09-11, 11:06 AM in reply to Lenny's post starting "The actual figure is about 4,550..."
Lenny said:
The actual figure is about 4,550 million years, give or take 70 million. This was put forward by a certain Clair Patterson (male). He gave up using Earth rocks to find out how old the world was, but used meteorites, assuming - correctly as it know turns out - that they were the, if you like, left over bits from the earliest days of the solar system, from the days when it had just been created, and probably, not that long after the creation of the Universe.
Just reporting what I've learned in school.

Our Biology teacher told us that they have evidence of life around from 4 billion years ago. That would mean life would be on this planet only 550 million years after its formation. Of course, she could be wrong on that.

Edit: Yup. Just looked it up. Almost every website I've been to has said 4.5 billion years.

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Posted 2004-09-11, 11:09 AM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Just reporting what I've learned in..."
Who has evidence?
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Posted 2004-09-11, 11:16 AM in reply to tokill.ace's post starting "Who has evidence?"
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Who has evidence?
Evidence. Hmm - Clair Patterson, a boy from the remote parts of America came up with an idea of trying to find out the age of the Earth, the scientific craze at that time. As the rocks on Earth are in a cycle, and are recycled to make new ones, they are unreliable sources, so Patterson tested meteorites found on Earth I believe, and came up with the conclusion that the Earth is the same age as its surroundings - 4.5 billion years. He used Harrison Brown's new method of counting lead isotopes in igneous rocks. It just so happens that Brown put Patterson onto the task of counting these isotopes in meteorites. It did, however, take Patterson nearly a decade.

If you want more evidence, I'll try and find some. Alternatively you could look on google for Clair Patterson etc.


(Wait a minute. I'm a self proclaimed, scientific atheist. According to previous posts, that shouldn't be possible, right???)

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