Soj's are losing value, but not nearly as fast as I thought. Try trading 2x soj for one jah. And then move up until you get the jah. Then repeat for the ber rune.
Btw, are you USEast/sc/l? My above statement was based on the assumption that you are.
no i'm on the west/ladder/sc but i'll try that tonight to see what i can get plus one more question.....is hoto the same value as a engima? .... thanx for ur help sovereign