The Next Great Invention?

D3v, we already have perpetual motion shit...the problem is that even if something goes forever, once you tap into that energy it will quickly go away.

Perpetual motion examples? A) the moon. B) NASA once had a shuttle orbiting the Earth and they extended a wire a few miles into space. The idea here was to generate an electric current from the wire going through the Earth's magnetic field at a high speed, much like a generator works. They generated so much electricity that the wire melted. Of course, if you actually put this electricity into use, the counter-magnetism that will be generated will eventually slow the shuttle down and bring it to a gentle crash into the Earth. So the shuttle would have to keep outputting the same amount of thrust energy as electrical energy being consumed, thus the Law of Conservation of Energy taking effect. In other words, energy is not free...ever. Something somewhere is using up its energy.

However, if we get more philosophical, you can get energy that's seemingly free. For example, the sun. Sure, the sun will eventually run out of energy, but you'll be long dead by then, so what does it matter to you? It's free energy from your perspective.

I win.

No no no no. Actually, gravity will eventually pull itself intowards itself and explode. As it did trillions of years ago. (big bang?) . And we're not talkign anything philosophical, its more mathamatical.

But there is some work , a magnetic shield engine. Magnetic shielding materials are available. They aren't perfect shields, but for the purposes of this motor they don't need to be perfect.

A freely rotatable armature in the center consists of a permanent magnet partly covered with a magnetic shield (solid black). The shield has openings at the right, near the poles. An outer ring has magnets in a radial array with their north poles inside, firmly fastened to a rigid frame. These magnets are long, so the south poles are at a considerably greater radius than the north poles. The magnetic field from a magnet pole decreases in strength with distance.

The shield apertures permit each armature pole to "see" only a couple of the magnets of the outer ring. Each armature pole is affected primarily by the north poles of the ring, those being nearest. Therefore, in the position shown in the picture, the N pole of the armature is repelled, experiencing a force to the left. The S pole of the armature is attracted, experiencing a force to the right. These two forces make a couple, which rotates the armature clockwise.

Classic simplicity! If you wanted to improve it, those outer magnets could be swung up or down so they were in a cylindrical array of magnets with their axes parallel. Then a similar armature could be placed in the plane of the S poles, operating on the same axle as the armature in the plane of the N poles. This should double the power output!

It's obvious from D3v's obvious lack of a friction and momentum factor that he is a mathamatical genius!

Yeah, and the fact that the moon isn't a propetional motion device means NOTHING... (sov pointed out)

I dont see how friction would be a problem here. Of course, I havn't spent ANY time studying perpetual motion devices, so this is just my speculation.

Friction would be generated when the center magnet spins. But the other magnets on the outside ring will keep on pushing it, and if there isn't a lot of friction, the device should work until the magnets demagnatize.

Lets use a jenga block for example. Put one down on a carpet floor. Weigh it down a bit to so it weighs as much as a small magnet. Now carpeting can cause a lot of friction. Chances are, just by blowing at it, it wont move anywhere. Now, apply enough air pressure, from lets say a high pressure co2 hose, and i guarentee you that the jenga block will start rotating or moving.

Depending on what you placed on the center magnet, the fricition wouldn't be a problem what so ever.

The only source of power distribution from that model would be to use the magnets in that picture as a fan... Fact is, if you actually wanted to generate something strong enough to actually generate electricity, you would need magnets the size of Rhode Island. I think a better idea would be to try and make a more cost efficient power source, not try to invent some free source of energy via magnets, it's just not practical. Take some Power Distribution Systems, Synchronous Machine Modeling, Power System Analysis, Motor Control Principles, and Energy Management Principles courses, then come back and tell me what you are attempting to invent is even feasible.

The simple fact of it is that a perpetual motion device is physically impossible. Peterpan did not devise a PMD either, or it would be a widely known discovery, and by widely known, I mean that everybody not living in a cave would know about it. Why? Because it would solve all current and future energy problems.

That's not to say I haven't tossed around numbers and ideas trying to create a PMD. The fact of the matter, however, is that it's (let's hear it again) physically impossible. Want to know why? Because a perpetual motion device's main proposed use is to create energy. Know one of the primary laws of physics? Energy cannot be created or destroyed.

The first step to creating a perpetual motion device is proving N = M where N and M are different constant numbers. If you can prove 1 equal to 2, and it doesn't involve some half-assed, illogical, or incorrect math, then you can build a machine that will perform operations that will do something similar. (i.e. 1 joule in = 2 joules out) However, that one big barrier stands in the way... "physically impossible"

I do have a couple of good ideas for inventions tho... I'm not going to post them here, as I haven't patented them yet. I may tell ya on AIM if you're really interested.

That's why the crystal power cell was so neat lol.

If you want any kind of infinite energy machine, wait a thousand years and see if humans figure out how to tap into singularities. Lol

How about a cure for cancer.

How about we just use petroleum.