Semi-Finals! Kuja vs. Raziel

Edited by Raziel

This entire post consisted of flames, HoH. Don't do it again. You have been warned.

No name calling. Be nice to each other -.-

YOu say kuja is weak and sucks at fighting? How bout when he took a huge array of shots off of bahamut and left flying with a CUT on his head, a fucking cut!!!

(im no kuja fan, so i may be wrong here).

He destroyed a fucking PLANET for christs sake. His home world fell to ruins. YOu call taht weak and a crackhead? I have yet to see raziel destroy worlds.

Note: im not calling raziel weak in anyway, he is oen badass, but kuja isnt one to be trifled with either.

I meant weak compared to raziel. Look at all of his Abilities and Attributes. He clearly outclasses Kuja.

And sorry for the inconvinience of vulgar name-calling, I shall save that for the flame forum, which i may never get to in the near future. Good day to all.

Well, it's like I said. It comes down to Raziel's ability to use physical attacks. Get in close and Kuja is done for. I'll post more later. Got to get to class.

I'm just wondering where all of you live ( those of you who post between 1200-700 AM CST). Raziel seems immune to damage. I will state again, he will kill Kuja.

read again....

*WEAKNESSES* - In all honesty...none. Physical attacks and magical attacks will harm him, but he has no glaring weaknesses.

They do affect him. Just not like they would affect any other mortal. Kuja is no mere mortal either. He can levitate, and shoot little energy thingies from his hands when in trance.

Little energy thingies? WTF? You mean like Ultima?



Okay, listen.

Kuja WAS able to withstand Bahamut's attack, but in all fairness, Bahamut isn't that powerful. If Kuja could withstand an attack like that, Raziel probably could. Though HP is alot different than just a health meter.


He could scale the wall and quickly climb up to where the dragon is, let of a Force Projectile and even though he would fall, his wings could lessen the damage.

Also, he could switch to

Kuja has many powers. Magical ones that are very effective. But, Raziel's attacks could be too numerous, it wouldn't give Kuja the time he needs to fire. If this was a pure magic-to-magic battle, Kuja could win. It's just, his physical atributes are greater than Kuja's. Run quickly, use an occasional attack, get in close and either claws ora Rever attack.

Kuja might be able to avoid him if the dragon took him high up, but even then, the Silver Dragon could not evade Force Glyph or Sound Glyph for long.

He could switch to Spectral Realm. He could now run through walls, whereas the Silver Dragon must waste time moving all around to avoid running into the walls. Also, telekenis could come into play. He could break aprt stuff and then just throw it at the dragon.

Then there's the health issue is on Raziel's side. Kuja must find time, like all his other attacks, to cure himself. Raziel can switch to Spectral and his health is instantly restored.

I'm guessing Raziel is a slow, methodic person, not emotional and impulsive. This mean he would contemplate his moves. Though not much strategy is needed.


*Raziel point out flaws. I don't want Raziel to win merely because I am the only one posting a significent arguement.*

Edited by Raziel   This entire post consisted of flames, HoH. Don't do it again. You have been warned.

I'm so sorry Raziel. It indeed won't happen again.

Raziel was smart though. The bolts of energy couldn't go side-ways. So he had run quickly to the wall and climbed up it.

...that one doesn't make a ton of sense to me. I recall seeing his Ultima bolts traveling sideways when he destroyed Terra.

Correct. I was thinking more of when he used it in battle.


Okay, how about this.


He switched quickly to Spectral Realm. He turned quickly and fled through the stone wall behind him. When the booming stopped, he ran quickly back into the other chamber and switched back to Physical Realm and he quickly scaled the wall.

And then I would just continue on with my original plan.

Ok i did some reasearch from one of the masters on this subject, we all know who he is , so lets see if i can help kuja kick some vampiric ass!


According to my source, all magical damage deat to kuja is cut in half. Give or take a little bit. All of raziel's glyphs require magic to produce, so all of his glyphs will be doing half damage at best.

As stated before, Kuja has the ultima ability, which we all know can cause massive destruction. And as stated previously, Raziel can only shift into the spectral plane at special shift points. This leads to one of two possibilities. One that could mean an instant win for kuja, bear with me as i explain.

The rules state that once raziel is forced into the spectral realm, the match is over. Now what happens in this scenario. Kuja and raziel are duking it out. Kuja Goes into trance. Its a fierce and close battle. Kuja casts ultima. Seing how it is a fast projectile of seething energy, it hits raziel square in teh chest, he is taking a beating and needs time to recoup, so he looks and finds a spectral shift point. He makes it in. Here is where the brilliance of kuja comes in. He casts some powerful spell (dont know any of the names sorry) and brings the whole cathedral down around them. The spectral shift points are burried deep within rubble. Raziel cant get out from teh spectral realm, so in a sence he is forced to stay there, game over kuja wins.

Another option would be is for kuja to use his emmence power and just bring down the whole arena to destuction. This would affectivly bury the spectral shift points, raziel would have no way of going in them. Puting raziel at a disadvantage.

KUja could also just levitate in trance, spewing all sorts of shit at raziel. Sure raz wont get tired, but one of these projectiles is bound to hit him.

Raziels soul might finally be put to rest...

And as stated previously, Raziel can only shift into the spectral plane at special shift points.

He can shift into the Spectral Realm anywhere at any time. He needs to find a shift point in the Spectral Realm in order to shift back into the Material Realm. Plus, time doesn't exist in the Spectral Realm, so trapping Raziel wouldn't work either. Raziel could spend literally decades in the Spectral Realm and once he found a way back into Material, the fight would resume as per normal. Kuja would percieve no amount of time between Raziel's shift into and from the Spectral Realm.

Because of the fact that the shift points are only located in Spectral, Kuja would have a difficult time locating them, considering he can't see them. On top of that, Raziel has an alternate way of shifting from Spectral to Material, but I won't even bring it up unless it becomes absolutelu necessary.

[A powerful attack Kuja could use is Flare Star.


Consider Kuja just hovers there, throwing spell after spell. All thses spells take time to perform. Raziel, is extremely quick. He could just scale the wall and launch himself at Kuja. Unless Kuja is exactly in the middle of the room and Raziel can't reach him. That would be bad.

But, agility and melee is still on Raziel's side. Kuja needs time to perform thse attacks, and he very well can't do this is Raziel is running everywhere. It would be like that game where you have the hammer and you try to whack the animal that keeps popping out of the different holes. Except, if you don't hit it quick, it will kill you in this instance.

The battles are situated in an arena. Its to be taken place in the arena. This building, the cathedral, is just an add on to the arena. You can't necessarily leave the arena. What would stop someone who can fly from flying away when wounded to return later at full health. If kuja brings down the cathedral, in which the cathedrals base is the size of the arena, raziel has no where else to enter the material realm. He affectivly be stuck there, unless you make a rule that states an opponent can leave the arena, and come back at a later time. Because i know he can rematrialize at a shift point thats not obstructed by stuff OUTSIDE of the arena. SO raz, tell me what this other way of switching realm's is, because Raziel is gonna need it.