Frontpage or Dreamweaver?

just wanted to see what you guys think is better?
post links to amazing sites made with both progs if you feel like it

I prefer Dreamweaver.

Bah, all page creation programs are for losers. Doing it yourself=200% better.

...but you can do it yourself in it... it does have an html coder...

I mean doing it in a programmer's editor, as plain text, without drag and drop etc.
Really, do you think anyone could have written the HTML for Synthesis's postbit with Frontpage or Dreamweaver? I doubt it. And if they could have, it probably took them just as long if not longer than doing it in plain text. And of course, since you wern't specifically designing it for it's purpose, you have to adapt it. Then there is all of the extra bloat that editors tend to add. No matter how you look at it, it is far better to learn how to do it by hand.

I know this great program I use for web design. It dosent have drag and drop, or special things, but I like it. I think it was called notepad :P, ahh just messing but it is so much better and you have so much more control of your site. I learned DreamWeaver for 2 years and I still wont use it for my sites. I just teach it. Also, learn PHP, that is the key to a great website.