Diablo 2 Patch 1.13c

But in general, if I find that I'm not having fun doing something, I'll stop doing it and do something else.

Exactly. Why play any game if you aren't having fun? If you aren't having fun playing a game then you're working, and working for free.

It's almost impossible to not have to work in WoW. First the game is created to really open up at top level. Once you hit that top level it's impossible to keep progressing (ie. gear) by yourself, because the endgame is purely multiplayer. You NEED many other players to really do anything, besides getting rich. You can't join a guild because all the ones that are worthwhile are a bunch of elitist assholes. So you have to be as good as them to even get in. So where do you start!?... Don't even get me started on rolling a DPS toon either! If you can't tank or heal you're basically worthless..
Of course I'm generalizing, but I'm pretty sure all new players face this. It's very frustrating.

not to get off subject in this thread but:

It's almost impossible to not have to work in WoW. First the game is created to really open up at top level.

Yes, there are a lot of things available end-game, but there is still a plethora of content in the beginning, middle, and end of the game. You just have to explore as K_A mentioned and work around in maybe no-so conventional ways.

Once you hit that top level it's impossible to keep progressing (ie. gear) by yourself, because the endgame is purely multiplayer.

You can quest entirely 'til 70, given it may take a little longer, but even if you do manage to get end-game without any help you can still PVP/run instances with the dungeon finder and be paired with other random players accross several servers.

You NEED many other players to really do anything, besides getting rich. You can't join a guild because all the ones that are worthwhile are a bunch of elitist assholes.

Like what? You may need it to run end-game instances, but that's it. Like I just mentioned, the dungeon finder is great for anything from lvl (15?)-til end game. I've leveled a mage from 0-65 in basically two months playing fairly infrequently, and without any help from any higher end guilds, or players. I've already had a few end game characters, and it was not any more boring than it had before, if anything it is much easier to hit end game now as it was compared to before the influx of retards.

So you have to be as good as them to even get in. So where do you start!?... Don't even get me started on rolling a DPS toon either! If you can't tank or heal you're basically worthless..

Not true. You just sound like you've had some bad experiences or something. Maybe you could try finding some cool people throughout the game, and add them to your friends list. Find out when they play, use some 'social interaction' to make some friends to quest and level with. Form a guild with them. Just negatively bashing all aspects of the game is obviously going to give you that same effect.

Heh. Mmk dev. I know all the good points of the game. I LOVED leveling my first toon, a rogue to 80. It's just after I hit 80 it was awesome and a bit of a let down. Anyways, it's an amazing game no doubt.

So make another character, level through different zones, profit? I mean, you're saying you loved leveling your character but you were a bit let down by level 80. Sounds to me like you would enjoy making another character rather than continuing to play your rogue. The natural response to that will be, "but then I've wasted all of that time getting the rogue to 80 and I'm leveling another character when I could be making my already-level-80 character better!!!!11" But ultimately, all that matters right now is right now, and if you aren't having fun right now you should find a way to.

But seriously, I've leveled up 1~60 horde side 3-4 times and I've basically gone different routes each time. I still have yet to level an alliance character past 20 or so and have plenty of content to explore on that side when I choose to. The point is, the game has a lot more to offer than level 80 and level 80 content, and even then it offers everything up to raiding on a SILVER PLATTER. The dungeon finder is STUPIDLY easy to use and makes doing dungeons almost too easy. You can group with people from other servers, you teleport straight to the dungeon, you can teleport out and back in at any time if you need to buy/sell stuff, etc... If anything, Blizzard has made WoW incredibly accessible to the casual player now. With the exception of a few raid dungeons, there's nothing in the game I can't experience with little/no effort. I mean, I could go get on my character right now and do a level 80 heroic dungeon in less than 30 minutes and log off for the night if I wanted to.

80 be rogue, 80 be pala, 80 troll hunter, multiple lower levels. Even a 29 orc shammy twink... God he was OP... Nowomannocry I probably liked doing BG's the best w/ him. To bad they ruined twinking.

I will agree that that is one thing that Blizzard seems to do a lot of, is ruin fun. What harm are twinks, really? It is analogous to when they "fixed" wall-climbing so people couldn't explore "hidden" areas. There was absolutely no harm, and lots of people genuinely enjoyed simply exploring the game and trying to find new places. I see no reason for them to "fix" harmless things like that.