De-Mod Yawgmoth?

And what of the reasons why he shouldn't?

1: Yawgmoth was given a Supreme Moderator position too soon!

Was he? He may not have been a Zelaron member for more than a year and a month, which is part of what makes him ideal for his job: He hasn't been biased by experiencing how things "should work" from our perspective.


2: "IF, and only if he can prove himself to be a decent member should he even be CONSIDERED for a mod"

How does the quality of being a dazzling display of decency relate to the ability of creating useful improvements for a community?


3: "The best recourse as I see it would be to de-mod, and let him earn the position as all the rest of Zel's current mods have."

Refer to #1. We need at least one staff member without as much experience as the rest.


4: "His ideals don't really match with everyone's here"

Differences in ideals leads to conflict and ideation. Occasional disagreement is a small price to pay for finding new, creative approaches to things. Also, conformity is a rarely seen quality in innovators and criminals alike. Why do you think members of both groups were commonly subject to the death penalty in the past?


5: "He takes this forum way too seriously"

How is that a problem? Refer to #4.


6: "He should prove himself to work for the good of this forum"

Point taken. It should, however, be noted that the desirous changes Yawgmoth likely will bring are not expected to be instantaneous. Zelaron has stagnated in a number of ways. It defies change, and change is Yawgmoth's forte. Conservatism is not intrinsically advantageous, thus arbitrary referrals to it are absurd.

Should his work prove continuously otiose, it would be reasonable to deprive him of his Supreme Moderator status.


7: "He's a rather large prick who happens to have a staff position for some reason unbeknownst to us"

Refer to my previous post and my responses to #1 and #4.


Hit me with whatever reasons to demod Yawgmoth that I missed. Furthermore, as I recently told -Spector- via AIM, if rational reasons are presented which outweigh the advantages of keeping Yawgmoth as a Supreme Moderator, he will be demodded without hesitation.

Well, it's rather hard to persuade someone with biases of his own to de-mod Yawgmoth.

Yawgmoths ideals are way to radical. He practically came in here and said "This is how I want things done, and want it done now, and you're going to listen or I will ban you for it."

Yawgmoths ideals are way to radical. He practically came in here and said "This is how I want things done, and want it done now, and you're going to listen or I will ban you for it."

That's the feeling I was trying to convey.

Well, it's rather hard to persuade someone with biases of his own to de-mod Yawgmoth.

Should biases impair my capacity for rational thought to a significant extent, then yes, evidently. While Argumentum ad Populum is normally a fallacy, I may, however, not be thoroughly impervious to popular beseechment.

All Yawgmoth has done since recieve his S-Mod position is whine about how were doing everything wrong. No more talk about jews in posts, no more adding little bitty jokes about anything that doesn't contribute to the topic. If this forum gets over-run by little pricks like that, I'm out.

I have to agree with Coriander on this one. It did seem like a hostile take over and that caught everyone off guard because we are so laid back, and the changes are usually a slow process, not so sudden.

As for your post on reasoning Chruser, I don't like it. It makes too much sense. For some reason, it makes for a sound decision and I totally agree, but it feels.... I don't know a big word for it, but it feels off. Other than that, I am neutral on the situation. I don't care who is mod, S-mod, SD-mod, or whatever, as long as he has a sense of humor and can accept that while he/she may have a strict code of ethics, there are others who are different, and must not abuse thier power.

So far, I have yet to see or hear of such abuse, which is why I stand neutral.

Another thing is that Yawgmoth didn't post much on Zelaron to begin with. His posts were just on how he wanted to change Zelaron and nothing else. So shouldn't an s-mod's posts be more varied and interesting?

Yes, the main purpose of a forum moderator is to post varied and interesting posts - the actual moderation is only a secondary chore at best. (Perhaps tertiary.)

Yes, the main purpose of a forum moderator is to post varied and interesting posts - the actual moderation is only a secondary chore at best. (Perhaps tertiary.)

Well hell, everyone does that.
I wanna be a Mod too!

Your not even being a decent moderator. You consider yourself King and the others on this forum scum. You simply view us as your personal pets.