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Oh...you told me... I got the first letter right...

oh, crap. i'm sorry. I was in such a hurry to get out the door(my sister was pushing me) I think I skipped over that part. sorry.

Of course the parts will wear down, but in this day and age it isn't possible to build a Perpetual Motion machine. The energy will run out, even if only after a very long time period. I think the first example of a Perpetual Machine was a self-winding clock? Something to do with the hands going around that wound the clock...I don't know for sure. But it lasted a few hundred years before it finally stopped. The energy will run out until we can find something that is 100% efficient. Until then, Perpetual Motion machines will always stop in the end.

Ok, that's true for what the technology is now. but that can change. at least they will run longer than they do now . but what about harnessing an artificial black hole smaller than an electron, throw a whole bunch of stuff at it. it would then throw back a whole lot of energy; in nuclear form! Then it will be a perpetual machine(or whatever)! I think there is a recent article in the discover magazine about that. I'll have to find it.

Granted, it will definitely change. I'd estimate that sometime in the next two centuries someone will create the first truly perpetual motion machine.

And if you could make that black hole, and harness it's energy then you could power everything!

I'm guessing you've read The Da Vinci Code? If you could produce something like the antimatter and harness the power you'd make millions!

I am sure with all this there will be huge downsides... we will kill ourselves by then

Not if we put it all in France. Turn France into a huge power station, all the better for us...

unfortunately, I didn't read the book. I asked my mom about the book(she didn't read it but she heard of it). what does it talk about, pertaining to our discussion?

also I read other books on time and space theories involving things like that.

using antimatter and matter in a collision generator is groundbreaking, but also extremely dangerous. an accidental explosion could warp time/space, annihilate everything, or have some other unknown effect.

wow, we have got to get a section dedicated to scientific theories, this is fun to pick our brains! very intriguing here is a page from the newest discover magazine. I think you'll find it interesting it's about the most powerful particle accelerator in the world that goes online in Geneva in 2007. It may produce tiny black holes.

The energy from colliding positrons and antielectrons "is 10 billion times ... that of high explosive," Edwards explained in his March speech. Moreover, 1 gram of antimatter, about 1/25th of an ounce, would equal "23 space shuttle fuel tanks of energy." Thus "positron energy conversion," as he called it, would be a "revolutionary energy source" of interest to those who wage war.

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The energy from colliding positrons and antielectrons "is 10 billion times ... that of high explosive," Edwards explained in his March speech. Moreover, 1 gram of antimatter, about 1/25th of an ounce, would equal "23 space shuttle fuel tanks of energy." Thus "positron energy conversion," as he called it, would be a "revolutionary energy source" of interest to those who wage war.

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Antimatter Antiprotons/antielectrons have been theoreticly thought to have a speed 30 billion times faster than that of the speed of Light.





THat would be the best fuckign source of energy ever.. but why have it when we know it would be used against us as a weapon any way?
and anti-matter particles are very very rare.. it takes over a year for physicists or w/e they are to create just one heavy anti-matter particle.

ah, but a collision of such particles would be brief and you'd have to continuously recreate the explosion. a mini black hole if sustained and fed, could produce a continous line of energy. besides, you could easily blow up yourself and everything else in this universe if you use the antimatter way.

I've got it. Mjordan has basically laid out the theoretical physics for this device: in his Graviton/Gravitized thesis. I'll become the power source for the world's energy!

......... right.......... anyway.

http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread....ght=gravitized

ok! my bad! nevermind.

Coincidentally, I think that thread was the last time Raziel posted.

ive seen somethin on the net like the device in the devinci code.. it has been tested and used, although they have manage to use antimatter-matter collision they could only capture about 1/2 of the energy that was produced in the containment of the device and the rest was moving too fast it went straight through the magnetic field which was holding them.. when i can be bothered later ill search for it.. i think the devices name is something like BaBa

Sorry sciencekid, I'm on about the wrong book...

It's actually he one before the Da Vinci Code that talks about Anti-matter - Angels and Demons.

using antimatter and matter in a collision generator is groundbreaking, but also extremely dangerous. an accidental explosion could warp time/space, annihilate everything, or have some other unknown effect.

That's basically what the plot is...a bomb of antimatter. Not gonna say anymore else it will spoil it.

Just to tell you...

Wait... I got lost...

what are you lost about?

Lesse...you and I started nattering about Gravity and Magnetic Fields to harness to power things, which progressed into miniature black holes, which progressed even further into Antimatter after I mentioned a book. And then PureRebel took the torch and you two had a natter about antimatter, and then I popped up with a book name...

Lesse...you and I started nattering about Gravity and Magnetic Fields to harness to power things, which progressed into miniature black holes, which progressed even further into Antimatter after I mentioned a book. And then PureRebel took the torch and you two had a natter about antimatter, and then I popped up with a book name...

..... i see...... ok then.....

Wtf Natter>?