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Posted 2005-06-21, 11:39 PM in reply to Titusfied's post starting "Me get real? Plotting is 100,000,000%..."
Titusfied said:
Me get real? Plotting is 100,000,000% legal. If you actually start getting supplies, as in guns, explosives, etc. to start acting out those plots, then it becomes intent. Plotting is nothing but a slap on the wrist. The only possible exception to this would be if you were caught with detailed information on how to execute this on someone like the President, for example.

D3V clearly told someone his plan on AIM, which as much as everyone hates him, he isn't an idiot that wouldn't think it wouldn't somehow get back to these forums.

I think D3V should not be perma-banned, because there have been a shit load of members that made accounts while banned. Grav, Mantra, !K_A!, and kaos stick out, only because they did it at least 5 times each (That whole shit with "NotGrav", "ThisIsn'tMantra", "DefinitelyNot!K_A!", "kaoswho" bullshit that fills up like 50 spots in the permanently banned archives, or at least once did when I had permissions to see it). Yet they are all still around. Coincidence? Not a shot, people are just holding a grudge against a decent member that they never gave a real chance.
A i m 1 s G a y: well what should I do now...
A i m 1 s G a y: I've gotten sov's zip code, his favorite pet's name and his city and filled out three accounts worth of password recoveries
A i m 1 s G a y: thanks to zel
A i m 1 s G a y: aim , his email and icq
A i m 1 s G a y: and if i change his email his zel pass has been sent to it before, and it's easy to get another request when u try to keep logging on and have them send another notice XD

Maybe you read it differently than I did, but I'd say that's beyond plotting. He isn't just planning how he's gonna do it, he actually started getting information so he could do it.

Honestly, even if he hadn't done that though, he should have been perm banned anyway. He's been given more than enough chances, nobody wants him here. All he does is start conflicts and shit, never a single useful thing. Him and Raziel have been going at it for way too long just because D3v keeps instigating it. He might be causing activity, but he isn't here now and I'd say Zelaron is more than active enough for me. Banning him in no way hurt Zelaron. It might not be fair to him, but who really gives a shit?
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