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Question Zelaron Election?
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Posted 2004-07-16, 02:18 PM
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I, and Lots of other Zelaron members have been noticing the 'staff' members acting retarted lately, so maybe we should have some changes. Thats when it occured to me, lets have a Zelaron Election!

Chruser, WetWeird, and the 4 Admins basically have the final say over the Moderation spots, and who can be elected for the Sup Mod / Mod positions.
Basically, they say that they want ..(example members).. and all members here for longer than 35 days or with 250 or more posts can vote. If not, your vote will be discarded.

But a twist with the election, is the members can elect to have a regular member for the position of a current member, and after some voting it will work like a regular election, they will have a head to head vote.

(Example, MJ for Sup Mod over Soverign, After Mj wins the mini election, he would go up against Soverign as a candidate and the voting would determine who gets the position.)

There could even be an Apply thread where Any possible candidate could enter themselves into the actual election, therefourth Chruser, WW, and the Admins can filter it down to a list of about 10. There The members may choose which Forum they would like to moderate, or the Owners/Admins would choose, depends on the restrictions of this site.

There are more variables, but this is the basic outline, Improve if you like.














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Posted 2004-07-16, 02:21 PM in reply to D3V's post "Zelaron Election?"
I like the idea, but thing is, this isn't a democracy. Zelaron is Chruser's site, and it needs to be run the way he wants it to be run. Him, and the admins have already made their decisions. It's a good idea, though.
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Posted 2004-07-16, 02:22 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "I like the idea, but thing is, this..."
mjordan2nd said:
I like the idea, but thing is, this isn't a democracy. Zelaron is Chruser's site, and it needs to be run the way he wants it to be run. Him, and the admins have already made their decisions. It's a good idea, though.
Ditto to what mjordan2nd put. Check out my thread. I just put a few sentences in, because I'm about to go to work, but I'll elaborate if needed later.
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Posted 2004-07-16, 02:26 PM in reply to uncapped's post starting "Ditto to what mjordan2nd put. Check out..."
There might actually be need for another new sup mod... ex-mania had made an official resignation thread.....

But i have the feeling that this thread was more or less made to try to oust me from my position -.-. But hey, whatever floats your boat!
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Posted 2004-07-16, 02:27 PM in reply to uncapped's post starting "Ditto to what mjordan2nd put. Check out..."
Personally, I don't like the idea.

Example:

Johnny has 251 posts, and everyone likes him. He decides that he wants my position as a Sup Mod.
He wins, and I lose my job, which I have had for a year and a half because more people like him.

I see flaws left, right and center in this system. Maybe if you are unpleased with the current staff, you can come up with a way that the vast majority of the members can vote on who they want to be fired. But the whole "election" thing just wouldn't work, in my opinion. If we have a position open, and there is a member who is very good, and willing, then we might hire him.

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Posted 2004-07-16, 02:33 PM in reply to Jamesadin's post starting "Personally, I don't like the idea. ..."
I see your concerns, James, but really thats the way an election works. Even in reality, it's just a popularity contest. I also like your idea of allowing members to decide who should be fired, but we are prohibited to discuss who we want fired.

http://www.zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25000
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Posted 2004-07-16, 02:35 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "I see your concerns, James, but really..."
Hmm, well, in that case, maybe someone could work out a system with the admins in which they could discuss it, not just creating random threads about it. I don't know, just throwing ideas out on the table.
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Posted 2004-07-16, 02:44 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "I see your concerns, James, but really..."
It says noone may make a thread. It says nothing about single posts. Just blurt it out, I think we all know who it is.
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Posted 2004-07-16, 02:46 PM in reply to Sovereign's post starting "It says noone may make a thread. It..."
Sovereign, don't get me wrong, I don't want you demodded. If you remember, I was your biggest supporter way back when you did get modded, and sup modded. I just think you've been going overboard sometimes, recently.
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Posted 2004-07-16, 02:53 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Sovereign, don't get me wrong, I don't..."
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Posted 2004-07-16, 04:18 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Sovereign, don't get me wrong, I don't..."
mjordan2nd said:
Sovereign, don't get me wrong, I don't want you demodded. If you remember, I was your biggest supporter way back when you did get modded, and sup modded. I just think you've been going overboard sometimes, recently.
Agreed.

Is Chruser even looking for a sup mod?
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Posted 2004-07-16, 09:57 PM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "Agreed. Is Chruser even looking..."
Hopefully. This place is like a bay after an Oil Rig is sunk. Needs to get cleaned up. Badly.
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Posted 2004-07-16, 09:58 PM in reply to uncapped's post starting "Hopefully. This place is like a bay..."
Look, I'll revise my idea after a while, I'm kinda busy at the moment, but that was slapped togetther in 10 mins.














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Posted 2004-07-16, 11:08 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "Look, I'll revise my idea after a..."
This is Not going to happen.
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Posted 2004-07-16, 11:20 PM in reply to Penguin's post starting "This is Not going to happen."
Neither will the 'Advisor...' Correct?














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Posted 2004-07-16, 11:23 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "Neither will the 'Advisor...' Correct?"
I dont know about that but this whole idea is... crazy. We need to keep things as stable as possible, without losing any members and the only way to do that is for people to stop with the petty crap. d3v, you need to leave sov alone. All the staff members are Trying to help, if theres something wrong then try to help them but dont flame them for something you dont like. And maybe start using PMs instead of making a post that drags everyone into it like some kind of brawl.
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Posted 2004-07-16, 11:33 PM in reply to Penguin's post starting "I dont know about that but this whole..."
Penguin, I'm not too sure why your talking about this in here. Your doing the same thing as you said I was doing wrong.

Look, I brought up an issue that many people we're talking about, I expressed what I thought about Sov, and asked for other's opinions.














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Posted 2004-07-17, 06:21 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "Penguin, I'm not too sure why your..."
The election will never work, and is pretty worthless. You are basically saying that you just want everyone to vote on a new staff member or whatever, and see if that person is approved, because all in all, WW and Chruser and the other Admins are gonna be making the final decision.... sounds pretty god damn worthless to me. The real way to make Zelaron better is add some staff. It doesn't make sense to not add staff, it's not like they get payed (unless I missed something ), so having extra staff shouldnt be a problem, I don't understand why they just don't add a Sup Mod or two.
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Posted 2004-07-17, 08:23 PM in reply to Penny_Bags's post starting "The election will never work, and is..."
SURE, election, but who ever want to vote have to be 18 or older, AND PAY TAX ( mean donate some money to the fourm) else STFU, you didn't ownz anything from the fourm,
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Posted 2004-07-17, 10:09 PM in reply to Ganga's post starting "SURE, election, but who ever want to..."
Do you really want Zelaron to turn into America Idol?
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