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PvP Guided Arrow need AR?
 
Posted 2004-08-26, 12:19 PM
This may seem like an obvious question, but I have a question about Guided Arrow. Because it "always hits", is there a point in pumping your attack rating at all? I know that with Freezing Arrow, AR will matter because the actual arrow itself will do damage as well as the cold, but I don't know how that works with Guided Arrow.

The reason I ask is that I am going to be making a PvP Guided Arrow amazon, and I don't know whether or not I should invest in Penetrate.

Thanks in advance for any advice!
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Posted 2004-08-26, 12:22 PM in reply to SkyGoneBlue's post "PvP Guided Arrow need AR?"
put atleast one into it becuz pierce is godly for what u dont use ga for
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Posted 2004-08-26, 12:23 PM in reply to Joka69's post starting "put atleast one into it becuz pierce is..."
Well, I wasn't planning on using any other attacks - just GA. It would be a dueling character, and no other arrow attack is really all that great for PvP (other than Multi-Shot, which WOULD require a big Penetrate investment).

So, for pure GA, is there any point at all to using Penetrate?
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Posted 2004-08-26, 12:29 PM in reply to SkyGoneBlue's post starting "Well, I wasn't planning on using any..."
http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30475

That or you zon going to be suck.
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Posted 2004-08-26, 12:44 PM in reply to Ganga's post starting "http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?..."
Well, the guide is ok, but he really didn't justify his skill choices very well. ONE point in Lightning Strike is going to 1-3 hit kill? I don't think so - especially because most people duel in Nightmare and have at least one lightning absorb item (for FoHers and Trappers).

On top of that, the charms are ridiculously inflated. Obtaining charms like that on NL now would take a wealth that I sure as hell don't posess. The same goes for the equipment. While 40/15s are duped like hell, they're still hard to get. And, I don't play with duped items anyway, so a lot of what he recommended is out of the question.

So, I'm still left asking, should I use Penetrate or not?
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Posted 2004-08-26, 12:51 PM in reply to SkyGoneBlue's post starting "Well, the guide is ok, but he really..."
Well... I really wouldn't recomand you make a zon then, if you only use her for duel, you sure will get... beaten very often.

And asnwer your question, penetrate = no.
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Posted 2004-08-26, 01:04 PM in reply to Ganga's post starting "Well... I really wouldn't recomand you..."
Well maybe I suck at dueling, but the GA Zons that I have seen have really kicked ass. Plus, they're kind of the underdogs. Everyone plays Pallys, Barbs, and Sorcs - I usually try to make at least 'somewhat' unique characters.

My other dueler is a Dragon Talon Assassin (a build which everone also says sucks, but I have had really good luck with her - even beaten a charger pally).

FYI, I mostly duel by Clan Honor rules. No teleporting, duped items, overpowered curses, effects, items, etc. (Maybe you're familiar with them - I'm not sure.)
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Posted 2004-08-26, 01:07 PM in reply to SkyGoneBlue's post starting "Well maybe I suck at dueling, but the..."
Well good luck to your build then, I think you really need fast run/walk charms even tho you don't need the one with max damage. Also what armor are you going to use?
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Posted 2004-08-26, 01:25 PM in reply to Ganga's post starting "Well good luck to your build then, I..."
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Well good luck to your build then, I think you really need fast run/walk charms even tho you don't need the one with max damage. Also what armor are you going to use?
Well I don't have all of my gear picked out yet.

I was thinking about Duress, CoH (if I get lucky), Shaft (doubtful)...

A Windforce is obvious, along with some good leech items (Gaze, dual ring, Dracs, etc).
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Posted 2004-08-26, 01:33 PM in reply to SkyGoneBlue's post starting "Well I don't have all of my gear picked..."
try to get engima, I would suggest b/c of the fast r/w.
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Posted 2004-08-26, 01:50 PM in reply to Ganga's post starting "try to get engima, I would suggest b/c..."
I got some free gear for u!!!!!! How about a 40/15'd Andy visage? 160-60ias armor? and poison charms? East/NL/Sc IM me Stikky04
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Posted 2004-08-26, 02:04 PM in reply to SlickFic04's post starting "I got some free gear for u!!!!!! How..."
Wow man, thanks! I'll be on in about an hour or so (depending when I leave work).
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Posted 2004-08-26, 03:07 PM in reply to SkyGoneBlue's post starting "Wow man, thanks! I'll be on in about an..."
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Wow man, thanks! I'll be on in about an hour or so (depending when I leave work).
Ok, I guess I can't be on right now - parents came down and insist on taking me out to eat. I added you to my list though man - I'm SkyGoneBlue. IM me if you see me on! Thanks again!
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Posted 2004-08-26, 09:54 PM in reply to SkyGoneBlue's post starting "Ok, I guess I can't be on right now -..."
Guided Arrow doesnt always hit. You block it, out run it, and defense can cnacle a Guided Arrow from hitting in 1.10
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Posted 2004-08-26, 11:51 PM in reply to Endurack's post starting "Guided Arrow doesnt always hit. You..."
defense doesnt cancel it out the only thing is either a block or avoid/evade can stop GA
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Posted 2004-08-27, 06:27 AM in reply to blckshdwdragon's post starting "defense doesnt cancel it out the only..."
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defense doesnt cancel it out the only thing is either a block or avoid/evade can stop GA
And I'm sure that Assassins could Weapon Block them too!
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Posted 2004-08-27, 07:22 AM in reply to SkyGoneBlue's post starting "And I'm sure that Assassins could..."
Regardless, a lack of AR will not make a GA miss. So there's no need for it.
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Posted 2004-08-27, 07:50 AM in reply to Medieval Bob's post starting "Regardless, a lack of AR will not make..."
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Regardless, a lack of AR will not make a GA miss. So there's no need for it.
Thanks Bob - that's what I was looking for!

Now, if I can just find Stikky online so he can hook me up with those godlies, I'll be in business!
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Posted 2004-08-27, 11:04 AM in reply to SkyGoneBlue's post starting "And I'm sure that Assassins could..."
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And I'm sure that Assassins could Weapon Block them too!
did i mention Block stops GA? did i mention redundancy is like spam?
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Posted 2004-08-27, 11:19 AM in reply to blckshdwdragon's post starting "did i mention Block stops GA? did i..."
weapon block does stop it and with an assassin u can use the one that makes u run fast and outrun the arrows pretty easily, i know i do. i can circle a zon and then dragon flight in and WW and then its an easy 1hit KO
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