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Dude threatens to commit suicide on a message board, then streams it live.
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Posted 2008-11-21, 08:42 AM
http://australian-bodybuilding.com/2...bcast-suicide/

Here's the summary of this fucked up story: a user named CandyJunkie on bodybuilding.com's forums has been threatening to committ suicide for a while now on these forums. Apparently, everybody took him as a troll and flamed him every time he made one of these threads. From what I've taken, the "Misc" forum of bodybuilding.com is similar to 4chan, without the child porn.

Anyway, he makes his final thread, people egg him on and tell him to do it... so he sets up a webcam and streams his suicide to whoever wants to watch.

Users get concerned and PM the mod/admin of the forum and this is her response:




After taking a lot of pills, he remains motionless for 5 hours before cops and EMT enter his room.

My question is, do you think the admins of that forum should be held responsible for some of this? They could have alerted the authorities right away when the webcam stream went up and avoided this death.

Crazy story.
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Posted 2008-11-21, 09:11 AM in reply to Thanatos's post "Dude threatens to commit suicide on a..."
That is true, there the death could have been avoided entirely if the harassment was not allowed to take place, either.

Even if they reported the authorities they would have to get an IP/etc and tracing it to his computer would take a long ass time, hence he would've probably been dead anyways; however, it never would hurt to try and save somebody's life.

This is a fucked up, and actually pretty sad story.

Stupid fucking MOD. It makes me want to join over there and belittle the shit out of him right now.














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Posted 2008-11-21, 09:15 AM in reply to Thanatos's post "Dude threatens to commit suicide on a..."
lol idiot. I guess the mod should of done something but I mean, classic story of boy who cried wolf... he cried it one to many times it seems.
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Posted 2008-11-21, 09:19 AM in reply to Thanatos's post "Dude threatens to commit suicide on a..."
That's an interesting question. That would take a bit of thinking for me to determine whether or not I think the admins should be held responsible.

I suppose that their lack of response could be considered a contributing factor to his death, but then again, I don't know that I would say they have any responsibility to do anything about it. The person was using another website/program to stream the suicide. People claiming that they're going to kill themselves is a frequent occurance on the internet, and generally I think it is regarded as simple "attention whoring." It's an unfortunate thing that happened, really.

Some other factors that would be relevant to whether or not the admins should be held responsible: Did they know any of his personal contact information to even contact authorities? I mean, if they don't know his name, where he lives, etc, there isn't a whole lot they could do other than figure out where he is based on his IP address. Even then, that's an unreliable means of finding out where someone is, within a reasonable amount of time. Did they know ahead of time that he was actually going to kill himself and stream video of it? How old was he? It's really difficult to say whether or not they should be held responsible.

My final question. Is there a video? I want to see this shit because I'm screwed up like that. GG internet.
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Posted 2008-11-21, 09:32 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "That's an interesting question. That..."
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Some other factors that would be relevant to whether or not the admins should be held responsible: Did they know any of his personal contact information to even contact authorities? I mean, if they don't know his name, where he lives, etc, there isn't a whole lot they could do other than figure out where he is based on his IP address. Even then, that's an unreliable means of finding out where someone is, within a reasonable amount of time. Did they know ahead of time that he was actually going to kill himself and stream video of it? How old was he? It's really difficult to say whether or not they should be held responsible.
You have to provide a personal e-mail account to register for their forums; I'm sure they had somewhat of an idea of his personal contact information or could at least access it in a relatively timely manner.

Yes, he made it apparent that he was going to stream it. Here is the link to the first page of his thread. They deleted it but google's cache has it up for now. The first link on my opening post in this thread has a video of the cops and EMT checking on him and I assume pronouncing him dead.

Abraham Biggs was his name. He was 19 and had a 2 year old son.
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Posted 2008-11-21, 10:12 AM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "You have to provide a personal e-mail..."
After reading the first bit of that thread, I can't help but to think of Spector.














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Posted 2008-11-21, 10:27 AM in reply to D3V's post starting "After reading the first bit of that..."
Mods arent responsible for his death, he made his bed and now he will lay in it. He choose to take the pills, to stream it on that forum, to do this this this and that. He made the choices, he made the multiple empty threats about killing himself earlier. No one was expected to beleive he would really do it this time. He is responsible for his own actions imo.

Look on the brightside though, theres one less fucked up individual on earth .

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Posted 2008-11-21, 10:51 AM in reply to Kazilla's post starting "Mods arent responsible for his death,..."
It still could have been prevented. I'm not saying the websites or administrators should be held responsible, but if you post empty suicide threads on the internet, you're clearly begging for attention and you've clearly got some issues. Both of these things seem to apply to this guy, and they were ultimately the reason why he killed himself. He had issues that he did not get help with. Now his family and his kid are going to have to pay for it. It's pretty tragic, in my opinion.

EDIT: I watched the video in the first link. WTF is that thing they threw on him? It looked like they were tazing him.

Also, while I don't think the websites or administrators should be held responsible for anything, I do think that something should happen to the people who were egging him on to kill himself. As much as I love the internet and places like /b/ on 4chan, sometimes shit crosses the line, and this is one of those times. Stuff like this is giving the internet a bad reputation.

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Posted 2008-11-21, 10:17 AM in reply to Thanatos's post "Dude threatens to commit suicide on a..."
Heh, you beat me to this. I post on BB so this was pretty bizzare to find out today. The whole Misc. section is like /b/ on 4chan, most of them don't even exercise, so fuck those guys.
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Posted 2008-11-21, 10:26 AM in reply to Grav's post starting "Heh, you beat me to this. I post on BB..."




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A teenager has committed suicide live on the internet after being egged on by others.
About 1,500 people watched as 19-year-old Abraham K Biggs from Florida overdosed on pills on Justin.tv, a live video streaming website.

He had told others on a chat forum that he planned to kill himself and posted a suicide note on another forum before taking the pills and turning on his webcam.

He lay on his bed and it was only after several hours that viewers realised what he had done.

Viewers contacted the police who broke the door down and found the body before turning off the camera.

A video clip was later posted on the internet which showed a police officer entering the room.

Mr Biggs went under the web name of CandyJunkie and was a member of a bodybuilding internet forum.

On Wednesday he logged on to the bodybuilding.com forum and wrote about the amount of drugs he was going to take.

Because he had made similar threats in the past, moderators did not take him seriously and other forum members even encouraged him to kill himself. He then posted his suicide note.

He wrote: "I am an a@#hole. I have let everyone down and I feel as though I will never change or never improve. I am in love with a girl and I know that I am not good enough for her.

"Please forgive me all for taking my own life so early. I tried so hard to fight against this strong battle.

"I have reached out for help so many times, and yet I believe, I was turned away because of the things I did, that it is a punishment I am willing to take, for I know that being who I am has only brought myself and others pain."

While he lay dead on the bed after the overdose, many forum members continued to insult him, thinking the suicide was staged.

Based in San Franciso, Justin.tv is an open network of thousands of live streaming channels.

The company's chief executive Michael Seibel said: "We regret that this has occurred and respect the privacy of the broadcaster and his family during this time.

"We have policies in place to discourage the distribution of distressing content and our community monitors the site accordingly. This content was flagged by our community, reviewed, and removed according to our terms of service."














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Posted 2008-11-21, 01:25 PM in reply to Thanatos's post "Dude threatens to commit suicide on a..."
Damn.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/s...24453&catid=82

It's making its rounds, now on our local news site.

Look at the attention bodybuilding.com is getting. We need to stage a fake suicide via webcam, as some sort of copycat suicide, and anonymously post it to a bunch of news outlets so that Zelaron.com can get a bunch of hits.














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Posted 2008-11-21, 01:29 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "Damn. ..."
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Damn.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/s...24453&catid=82

It's making its rounds, now on our local news site.

Look at the attention bodybuilding.com is getting. We need to stage a fake suicide via webcam, as some sort of copycat suicide, and anonymously post it to a bunch of news outlets so that Zelaron.com can get a bunch of hits.
2nd'd maybe not another suicide but, something major that would get news outlets begging for a piece of Zelaron.
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Posted 2008-11-21, 01:32 PM in reply to Kazilla's post starting "2nd'd maybe not another suicide but,..."
I think a seemingly-real (hoax) suicide would be perfect. The news media would eat this shit up at this point. There needs to be a whole elaborate story behind it, and we all need to be egging it on, and another group need to be trying to talk said person out of it.














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Posted 2008-11-21, 01:41 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "I think a seemingly-real (hoax) suicide..."
The bb.com forums appear to be down and the video in the first post has been removed. They're crackin down!

::edit:: forums are back up

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Posted 2008-11-21, 02:21 PM in reply to Kazilla's post starting "2nd'd maybe not another suicide but,..."
Penguin already did a publicity stunt.
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Posted 2008-11-21, 02:40 PM in reply to WetWired's post starting "Penguin already did a publicity stunt."
O rly? Inform us more.

And who cares regardless, that was in the past.














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Posted 2008-11-21, 03:56 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "O rly? Inform us more. And who cares..."
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O rly? Inform us more.
I think he might be referring to Doom 3, but I don't remember that far back very well. I was a noobula.
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Posted 2008-11-21, 03:20 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "Damn. ..."
rofl

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