Unified Race, Utopia or Not?

An interesting debate in my opinion has been sparked though another thread.

What do you feel outweighs itself, Having differences is definately important for adding culture to our society; as compared to being a unified race, as K_A says possibly making it impossible for us to be different, or fast forwards a few hundred thousand years where we're all the same race, do you see it as a good thing? Or is Diversity a good thing.


And if you DO feel that a 'Utopian' race is a good thing, what other problems would be created, or solved.

Well, most definately the problem of loss of culture would arise, but only temporarily. There would be only one culture, and the next generations would take it as their own. Eventually, we would be one united race, culture, etc.

I don't mean one country (USA, for example) taking over the world and making everyone change to our culture. I mean everyone losing their culture, to join as one culture. Rather than having individual countries who have their own ideals and agendas, have a single race/nation set on improving humanity, living conditions, etc.

As long as there are differences, there will be conflict. Until there is one unified entity, we're just holding ourselves back unnecessarily. We're not seeing the true potential of the human race.

Differences will always exist, even under a united world government where everyone had the same color of skin. It's an inherent human quality to bicker.

Are you more likely to bicker someone whom you have no sort of connection to or someone who is very much like you?

Conflict would still exist, most certainly, but it would be nothing like what we have right now.

Are you more likely to bicker someone whom you have no sort of connection to or someone who is very much like you?

Well, neither, but I think I get the gist of what you're saying.

My argument, however, is that those changes will be purely superficial. There will be plenty of other issues we will find to bicker over. Such as the length of an angel's wing. And it will be just as brutal as it is now. Assuming that human nature hasn't changed entirely, which is possible. But biology as we know it would not select for those characters.

Even with someone who is genetically no different from you and is raised in practically the same environment you will bicker. For instance, take identical twins.

We are programmed to bicker.

That is an individual and an individual though. The bickering between an individual and an individual is mostly harmless, anyway. When you take a very large group of people and it starts bickering with another very large group of people, that's when the conflict gets serious.

Well, most definately the problem of loss of culture would arise, but only temporarily. There would be only one culture, and the next generations would take it as their own. Eventually, we would be one united race, culture, etc.

I see this as an interesting point, but even greater, the fact that as it progressed in time, wouldn't it eventually come back to the point of evolution and different areas of this new culture may go off into their own direction and eventually we'd just make a giant loop and culture would start over?

I don't mean one country (USA, for example) taking over the world and making everyone change to our culture. I mean everyone losing their culture, to join as one culture. Rather than having individual countries who have their own ideals and agendas, have a single race/nation set on improving humanity, living conditions, etc.

I agree with this half of the story, I would love for our world to improve on Humanity, but there are SO MANY FACTORS in this world that would make this pretty much impossible for anything to happen, atleast in any sort of distant future. Religion is probably the biggest problem, believe it or not, MOST nations and country basically believe in one God or a God, a higher being, but there are variations, which comes back to the point of causing the problem.

So with religion being ruled out, the Language barrier would be the next problem that would have to be solved, and that is being solved before our very eyes, English is going to dominate the world, one way or another. I remember reading somewhere that somewhere around 50% of people in China could speak/write English, which is amazing.

I just don't ever see a Utopia being feesible, atleats in my mindset, not without something Destructive happening to our World/Universe where something so great would happen that we would have to ban together for our own good, something like you'd see in Independance Day.

I guess I just feel that we could still be different, AND move forward, you are right K_A, we do have very very very great potential and have ONLY begun to unlock just the tiniest percentage of what we are capable of, but the real question is if we can be different and move forward or not, and I believe that we can.

I kinda think it's a little Impossible... I'd hate to see it happen, since that would cause all my perverted "Asian" fetishes to be incorrect...


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