Emperor Palpatine vs. Lord Voldemort

The terror of the Wizarding World...the most powerful dark wizard in a century.. i give you Lord Voldemort! (the "t" was siletn originally, according to the audio versions of the books)



He squares off against the only Sith in history to successufly eliminate the Jedi and conquer the galaxy...the man who seduced Darth Emo (The Chosen One who would destroy the Sith) to the dark side...the brutal despot of the Star Wars Galaxy, Emperor Palpatine!


First round is a Beauty Contest.

Then an all-out brawl.

It's really weird...some people actually think an HP Wizard could take a high-end Sith or Jedi...

Palpatine. He'd make the wizard choke himself to death before he could utter a word .

Ah, but don't forget silent spells that are said in the head. Things like Septumsempra.

That's where mindraping comes in.

Palpatine: You will not say that incantation.
Voldemort: I will not say that incantation.
Palpatine: You will admit that JK Rowling ripped off my design in creating you.
Voldemort: I will admit that JK Rowling ripped off your design in creating me.

Ah, but is Voldemort not also a very accomplished Occlumens? Surely he'd be able to block his mind to Palpatine's probing.

Good point, actually.

It's up to yanking the wand out of Voldie's hand then. He's kinda helpless without it.

Accio Wand!

We've seen in books how hard a wizard can hold on to their wand (and other objects) even when it's being pulled out their hand with some force. Which would make it very hard for it to be just yanked out of the hand. Add to that the fact that whilst he still holds the wand, Voldemort can cast a spell to disable Palpatine and interrupt him mid flow.

Indeed, Voldemort could then Accio Palpie's Lightsaber and take away his main hand-to-hand weapon.

We've seen in books how hard a wizard can hold on to their wand (and other objects) even when it's being pulled out their hand with some force.

The disarming charm has ALWAYS disarmed a person. It also seems to knock them off their feet most times.

The summoning charm Bellatrix used on Harry to get the Prophecy were never completed... She started but was cut off and he just barely managed to cling onto it then.

Add to that the fact that whilst he still holds the wand, Voldemort can cast a spell to disable Palpatine and interrupt him mid flow.

Uh...no one in HP is exactly above-average in athletic speeds. They certainly aren't doing Yoda moves. Yet Harry and the rest can dodge spells. You're telling me Palpatine won't be able to get around most anything Voldie casts?

Indeed, Voldemort could then Accio Palpie's Lightsaber and take away his main hand-to-hand weapon.

While he's doing that...he's getting turned to extra-crispy wizard by Palpatine's Force lightning.

The disarming charm has ALWAYS disarmed a person. It also seems to knock them off their feet most times.

Ah! But Palpatine isn't waving a wand and shouting Expelliamus is he?

Uh...no one in HP is exactly above-average in athletic speeds. They certainly aren't doing Yoda moves. Yet Harry and the rest can dodge spells. You're telling me Palpatine won't be able to get around most anything Voldie casts?

If the spells don't hit him, but force him to lose concentration and dodge, then they've helped a bit, haven't they? There's nothing in the rules that states a spell must be cast to hurt the person directly. In the books we've also heard of great things happening to the weather, and bridges collapsing and what not. Don't forget also the big explosions that have been caused by 'lesser' magicians (Wormtail particularly). Voldemort will be at least that powerful, and a lot more - with that power he should be able to cast large blanket spells that affect quite an area. How can Palpatine dodge something that's spread out over a large area and coming straight at him?

Which audio books were you listening to? I don't remember the T being silent.

Which audio books were you listening to? I don't remember the T being silent.

1-4. Most of the pronouncing changed later on.

Dale (sp?) said "Her-mo-ne" instead of "Her-mi-o-ne". That weird stone taken from a stomach of a goat was pronounced "bu..." something French-y sounding but as of Book 6, they do what the first HP movie did and call it a "Bee-zo-er" or something. And it was always Vol-de-mor" from the audio. I have all the books and it was Vol-de-mor from 1-4 I'm fairly positive.I never heard the t and that's why I never knew how to spell his name right for a while.

Ah! But Palpatine isn't waving a wand and shouting Expelliamus is he?

No. He's thinking and yanking the wand right out of Vold's grip.

How can Palpatine dodge something that's spread out over a large area and coming straight at him?

Well...I'm not making up Force powers for Palpatine so would you mind not making up spells for Vold?

I'm not making up. Start of Book 6, second page, it talks about a freak hurricane, which we later learn was magicked. A large spell which causes something that covers a large area.

I'm not making up. Start of Book 6, second page, it talks about a freak hurricane, which we later learn was magicked. A large spell which causes something that covers a large area.

Actually, it was a giant.

Actually, I've just checked - Death Eaters. With suspected giant involvement, but no certain evidence. We're both wrong.

JK Rowling has been less than specific in most of her descriptions of magic and types of magic available in her universe, while Palpatine's powers are a little more well-known.

Kinda hard to make a match without attempting to further extrapolate what the characters are capable of.

Force Lightning, Force Choke, gg. Never even draws the lightsaber.

One would have to assume that Voldemort would come prepared with a simple Defensive charm active to negate an obvious attack such as Force Lightning.

Voldemort would be able to stun Palpatine with a voiceless spell, which should break his concentration enough to set up another defense.

According to Vader in the books, Palpatine may be good enough to read people's minds (such as Vaders). Palpatine may be prepared for whatever Voldy was going to throw at him. Not to mention that Palpy would simply dodge anything Voldy through at him.

According to Harry Potter books, Voldemort was an accomplished Occlumens, which directly counters his mind being read.

According to Harry Potter books, Voldemort was an accomplished Occlumens, which directly counters his mind being read.

Yea, but Vader wasn't exactly weak on such things either.