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Posted 2002-08-29, 09:43 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post "Should KKK be banned"
i think that many organization groups should be banned. The taliban for one, the KKK, the Black Panthers they need to all be banned. Ne organization that takes part in criminal activity should be banned, or that is what I believe. They have the rights to their beliefs and feelings but it is a known fact that the KKK has murdered many people out of hate. They should have been outlawed many years ago. And if we're on the topic of freedom why cant a black person get out without getting harassed by the cops. About 2 weeks ago I got pulled over by the cops for driving my parents benz. They said I stole it but eventually let me go. But newayz the black panthers, KKK, and taliban need to be banned, or there needs to be a heavy effort made to arrest the criminal members of those organizations.
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Posted 2002-08-29, 10:46 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post "Should KKK be banned"
The KKK has NEVER murdered a single human being. INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS within the Klan have commited horrendous atrocities, but the Klan as a whole can not be blamed for what a number of individuals have done. When you show me a record of EVERY SINGLE MEMBER of the Klan involved in the exact same murder at the exact same time, THEN I will agree with you.

Second, we can't ban the Black Panthers for the same reasons the Klan can't be thrown out. In this type of situation, the ENTIRE group would have to be aprehended while commiting the crimes they are accused of.

Finally, America cannot ban the Taliban. They are an Afghani political power (so to speak) and we can't simply say "too bad, no more Taliban for you guys!"

You are thinking in terms that are FAR too broad to be realistic. The fact is, even if we did ban organizations like the Klan and the Black Panthers, it wouldn't change a thing. Those PUBLIC militant groups would simply become UNDERGROUND militant groups, and the situation would be no better.

And in regards to your racial profiling complaint, I agree with you wholeheartedly. It's not fair when a guy is held in custody because of a couple of dumbass, prejudiced cops. It's not fair that every store I go into I am watched like a hawk because the employees fear I'll start trouble. It's not fair. But, it will NEVER go away. Hate and stupidity run rampant in the human race, and it is a character trait we will never outgrow.
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Posted 2002-08-29, 11:53 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post "Should KKK be banned"
I agree with you raziel whole heartedly...

I hate that shit when you go in stores and people watch you.. I know I might have done a lot of crap in stores but ever since I was younger shit like that has been the same way (originally one of my excuses to start doing shit)
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Posted 2002-08-30, 12:05 AM in reply to Demosthenes's post "Should KKK be banned"
A fairly common occurence for me is when an employee or the manager will actually ask that I leave the store. I'll just be looking around, and then I feel a tap on my shoulder. It's ridiculous.
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Posted 2002-08-30, 12:08 AM in reply to Demosthenes's post "Should KKK be banned"
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Originally posted by Raziel
The KKK has NEVER murdered a single human being. INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS within the Klan have commited horrendous atrocities, but the Klan as a whole can not be blamed for what a number of individuals have done. When you show me a record of EVERY SINGLE MEMBER of the Klan involved in the exact same murder at the exact same time, THEN I will agree with you.

Second, we can't ban the Black Panthers for the same reasons the Klan can't be thrown out. In this type of situation, the ENTIRE group would have to be aprehended while commiting the crimes they are accused of.

Finally, America cannot ban the Taliban. They are an Afghani political power (so to speak) and we can't simply say "too bad, no more Taliban for you guys!"

You are thinking in terms that are FAR too broad to be realistic. The fact is, even if we did ban organizations like the Klan and the Black Panthers, it wouldn't change a thing. Those PUBLIC militant groups would simply become UNDERGROUND militant groups, and the situation would be no better.

And in regards to your racial profiling complaint, I agree with you wholeheartedly. It's not fair when a guy is held in custody because of a couple of dumbass, prejudiced cops. It's not fair that every store I go into I am watched like a hawk because the employees fear I'll start trouble. It's not fair. But, it will NEVER go away. Hate and stupidity run rampant in the human race, and it is a character trait we will never outgrow.
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Posted 2002-08-30, 10:35 AM in reply to Demosthenes's post "Should KKK be banned"
There was a Klan rally up here during the summer.. newspaper said that there were police everywhere, and very few other people in attendance. There were no criminal acts, so there is no way that they could be arrested. There is that whole "freedom of speech thing that Penguin mentioned, so they should not be banned. Otherwise other (more peaceful) groups may be banned for holding "offensive" meetings, such as anti-war protests ("I find those offensive!")

If others don't have rights, you won't either.
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Posted 2002-08-30, 10:54 AM in reply to Demosthenes's post "Should KKK be banned"
The fact of spreading some ideas can lead to a banning so yes, KKK shall've been banned, as being banned they'd have spread their offensive and liberty-threatening ideas, now maybe they are too known and banning em will create just somewhat a martir,so they can go saying shit they are opressed by a niggers-lover government or such, just taking action against some kind of people is hard.
BTW here in spain the political faction of ETA( the terrorist group in here pro-independentist) has been banned 4 showing support to those terrorist actions, and that doesn't attempt against their freedom of speech, as far as their attitude attempted to many other people (mostly politicians) freedom of life(harrased and threatened by those terrorists when they crossed in that political group path)
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Posted 2002-08-30, 01:23 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post "Should KKK be banned"
You can't ban an organization in America simply for having racist views or spreading racist propaganda. If they were spreading messages of treason on the US, THEN they could be banned, but they're not doing anything different from what Jerry Falwell does on television and radio. Reverend Jerry Falwell spreads hateful messages against homosexuals, Jews, atheists and almost every other class of human being besides white Christian. However, he has not commited ANY crime in doing so. So, he gets to continue spreading his asinine opinions. The rest of the nation just has to learn to live with it and ignore it. You can't simply make a law against an organization in America for having horrible beliefs. It's unconstitutional.
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Posted 2002-08-30, 01:26 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post "Should KKK be banned"
i held off my vote for awhile... but now ive voted.

i dont like the kkk at all but i voted no because i really believe in our constitution and government and laws and stuff and it would not be right to ban them... on the other i think the kkk is a dirty piece of shit and they are going to hell
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Posted 2002-08-30, 03:48 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post "Should KKK be banned"
I agree
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