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Posted 2006-02-03, 01:16 PM in reply to Medieval Bob's post starting "I still don't see how you're not..."
unless we know how to make a computer using a real brain... then who knows, only way i can saw that real AI will be made... but even our brains are limited, tho that limit is growing too
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Posted 2006-02-03, 02:35 PM in reply to Medieval Bob's post starting "I still don't see how you're not..."
alright. you know what? whatever, think what you want, im through arguing w/ you unless you have something else to say. in this particular moment i am in pain and im about to see the doctor, so i have no time for this, whatever. ill find someone else who i can constructively argue the point out w/ later. maybe lenny or something.
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Posted 2006-02-04, 01:01 AM in reply to sciencekid's post starting "alright. you know what? whatever, think..."
I don't see what makes you think you're arguing at all. All you keep saying is that I won't listen to your argument and make constructive criticism.
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Posted 2006-02-04, 03:17 PM in reply to Medieval Bob's post starting "I don't see what makes you think you're..."
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I don't see what makes you think you're arguing at all. All you keep saying is that I won't listen to your argument and make constructive criticism.
you summarize things very badly. i didn't say that you won't listen to my argument. i just said that there might be a miscommunication between us. and as for the constructive criticism, i only mentioned it twice out of the seven times i posted(not including this time). so please stop thinking that you know and understand everything and keep an open mind ok? also we are/were arguing:

Definition:
argue = To put forth reasons for or against; debate: “It is time to stop arguing tax-rate reductions and to enact them” (Paul Craig Roberts).

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=argue

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- first off i was being sarcastic when i said the part about the dumb questions.
- second the whole point of AI is that the comp can think for itself. it will be like talking to/with another person.
- third if a computer can think for itself then there is no need for the programmer to program in every creative solution in the possible world.
- fourth you can't prove that something can't be ever done(unless you're extremely specific). they thought that a person couldn't jump several feet off the ground, but on the moon, it can be done. but they didn't know that back then, did they?

- fifth and lastly, if you live in a world where not everything is possible, then it never will be and you will be living in the past no matter what you say.

Medieval Bob said:
The computer AI would have to be extremely advanced. As long as it can deal with modern language, misspelling, voice interpretation, slang, l337 speak, nerd talk, completely stupid things, completely rational things, things that fall in between the two, and can discern the difference in actions that you can do, actions that you can try to do in certain circumstances, and actions that nobody would ever be allowed to do on the fly, then yes, it might work.
That's what i call arguing.
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