Back from the Psych Hospital

Funny enough she wasn't. She occasionally got high but didn't like to around me because she felt 'awkward.'

I never understood why so many girls are like that. Seriously, I've had at least 3 girls tell me the same thing. "It'd be too awkward." Umm how? You smoke. I smoke. Let's smoke together? Oh well.

But WKFF is right, if she really does love you and care for you, she'd be trying to help you kick your bad habits, not promoting them in any way, shape, or form. Lord knows you need the help. Find a girl that actually cares for you. Actually, don't even worry about a girl right now. Get your situation under control before you add uneeded stress.

Exactly. A lot of people don't understand that. She could, thereotically, genuinely care for you and be too dumb to know they're bad habits ...in which case you need to kick her to the curb anyways.

rofl, thanks for the advice guys.

Sitting by and letting your loved one harm oneself without putting your foot down is negligent. I wouldn't sit by and watch my loved one cut herself or some shit, so why would I let her burn holes in her brain with idiotic habits, or develop her own nice little psychosis? To each his own, I suppose, but I don't see how anyone can sit back and watch their loved ones do that without doing their best to stop them.

Not all drugs are bad.

I would say that Marijuana, along with most hallucinogenics, are not bad in moderation. Hallucinogenics probably do cause some problems with the brain, but in my opinion, what you learn from the experiences are more than worth it.

What do you learn from the experiences, KA?

Using hallucinogenics is mind-opening.

Using hallucinogenics is mind-opening.

This is true. I've met many people who agree with me that life is distinctly different after you trip.

Native Americans have been using hallucinogenic mushrooms for hundreds of years with no negative side effects.

That's if... you eat the right mushrooms :-P

Hmm, that's alright. I think my mind's open enough. Just because I don't acknowledge other viewpoints sometimes when I say things doesn't mean I don't consider them at all .

Hmm, that's alright. I think my mind's open enough. Just because I don't acknowledge other viewpoints sometimes when I say things doesn't mean I don't consider them at all .

I'm not saying by any means that everyone should smoke pot and do other drugs. It's not for everyone. I'm just saying that having someone who at the very least understands that he enjoys such things and makes sure that he doesn't take it too far would be better than someone who's going to try to tell him not to do anything. I ocassionally smoke pot and I've done some hallucinogenics. I experiment with other drugs, as well. I'm not unhealthy in any way because of what I've done and do, and my life hasn't been ruined by any means.

However, I don't disagree that Spector should have someone who cares when he goes too far. That's when drugs become bad. I think a lot of drugs are fine in the hands of responsible users.

I'm not saying it makes you a bad person or anything if you do drugs, but it is irresponsible for anyone to recreationally abuse drugs. Whether or not you agree with them being illegal, they are, and can negatively effect your future. However, the same could be said for a lot of things people do, so oh well .

Some would say it's irresponsible to accept laws that are against victimless crimes. I disagree with most drug laws (and some other laws, as well, such as seatbelt laws) because I don't think the government has the right to tell me not to do something unless what I'm doing is hurting someone else. If I'm dealing drugs, yeah, it's no longer a victimless crime. If I'm doing drugs and going driving around, yeah, I'm putting other people's lives in danger. If I'm sitting at home or I'm out in the middle of nowhere camping and I do drugs and don't hurt anyone, I'm doing nothing wrong, in my opinion.

As far as marijuana goes, the only thing that currently makes it bad, in my mind, is the fact that it's illegal and if you're caught you can ruin your future. If the person using marijuana understands and accepts this, I see nothing wrong. I don't think the argument that "it's illegal so you shouldn't do it" really works, though.

However, marijuana debates are old and busted, and I don't really feel like getting into one. You sound basically like you're saying that people who do drugs aren't bad people, they're just irresponsible, because they are potentially messing up their lives. That's not necessarily an invalid argument, but I don't agree with it in all cases. We can just agree to disagree.

I've learned there's really no point debating marijuana issues with WKFF. He's extremely biased and doesn't have first hand experience to really form an accurate opinion.

KA, totally agree with you once again (weird). I've even had cops tell me "We don't care if you decide to smoke in the comfort of your own home, but when you bring it out on the road we've got to take action." More than one cop has told me this, too.

That's because most cops do it in their houses, too. I've done drugs and have decided against them. I agree with above saying that being responsible in how you use them is key. I'm just biased because I know so many 'losers' in my circle of friends and even some in my family that are pot addicts, and all they do all day every day after they get home is get high and sit around.

But anyways, hope you get better spector.

Some would say it's irresponsible to accept laws that are against victimless crimes.

If you don't like the laws then go through the appropriate channels to change them. It's a long process, but what do you expect for rules applied to over 300 million people? Until that is accomplished, the rules dictate that it is illegal, and doing illegal things (especially ones where you can get jail time, lose careers, and possibly lose your kids) is irresponsible. That's just my $.02. I'm not protesting to be flawless, I do irresponsible things too. I watch licensed anime for free and break speed limits, but I just always have to speak out against drugs .

You sound basically like you're saying that people who do drugs aren't bad people, they're just irresponsible, because they are potentially messing up their lives. That's not necessarily an invalid argument, but I don't agree with it in all cases. We can just agree to disagree.

That's pretty much exactly what I said. I'd be for legalizing drugs. I understand that some of them are not very harmful to you. However, until the current generation in power dies out, that will not happen.