World of Warcraft Poll, Please answer

I wish I knew what instances you guys were talking about...

TBC instances. I haven't done all of them myself. I have only done kara as far as raid instances.

Karazhan is the new 10-man Raid zone, Joe.

Gruul's Lair is the first 25-man, followed by Magtheridon, then Serpentshrine Cavern (Lady Vashj's place), then Tempest Keep (Prince Kael'thas' place).

The Black Temple is gonna be crazy.

The Black Temple is gonna be crazy.

I won't see it for months for sure.

Does it really count that I play it if when I go to my cusens house we play almost 24/7?

Ah, yea I sorta understand where in the line stuff is, but as you've prolly been able to guess I havne't been on wow much lately.. Account runs out in June and I don't see Blizzard getting anymore money at this rate.

Blizz's design philosophy confuses me at this point, they're trying to run a raid game with PvP thrown in as an afterthought without rewarding the people running the more difficult raid content, but nearly any moron with a pulse will eventually get Arena gear that's on par (or better for some offspecs) with late raid drops.

Started looking into Warhammer as a possibility for the future, but its release has been pushed back to Q1 2008.

lolepix

lolepix

Put it in Blue text, and it'd be like reading the worldofwarcraft.com forums.

Just because you like to raid, don't complain that the people that like to PvP can get good stuff too.

Just because you like to raid, don't complain that the people that like to PvP can get good stuff too.

You misunderstood my intent.

It's not that at all, it's that PvPers only really need a fundamental grasp of the game to get rewards on par with raid gear which often require high coordination among groups of 25 people, as you can still get rewards for standing around in BGs long enough or being slightly less clueless than a number of Arena teams to get your rewards (even though being good speeds up the processes). Raiding has no such "consolation prizes", you either win or you get nothing, and what you win often took much more time and gold to acquire.

Blizzard has somewhat addressed this with Resilience being a fairly respectable PvP stat, but there's still too much crossover between PvE and PvP for the gear to not be compared or used in both scenarios.

I'd kinda prefer items geared for a certain type of content with the same ilvl to have certain base stats and then stack a unique 'equipment buff' when you're zoned into a zone that the item was designed for. Basically, two items of equivalent ilvl would have similar stats until you zone into the zone that the equipment was designed for. Gladiator weapons get uber when zoning into a PvP area, and raid epics gain full power when zoned into a Raid.

If you raid just for gear, you raid for the wrong reasons. Maybe you should evaluate why you raid.

If the gear you are getting is good enough to progress you further, you should be happy. If you want gear with less work, go PVP. Do what you enjoy.

If you raid just for gear, you raid for the wrong reasons. Maybe you should evaluate why you raid. If the gear you are getting is good enough to progress you further, you should be happy. If you want gear with less work, go PVP. Do what you enjoy.

Where did I say anything like that?

You raid to see content, you raid to progress your character, and you raid to play with your friends. I raid for all three, as does anyone who raids. That's not my point however.

It basically boils down to someone who does more work would normally expect better compensation. This was a major (and valid) concern of people doing the PvP grind under the old Honor system versus people zoning in with Raid epics.

This got addressed, now the situation has reversed.

Why do you need "compensation" for "seing content, progressing your character, and playing with your friends"? What you're saying is reversed. You say you pretty much raid for fun, but you expect compensation for it like you're working a job.

Progressing your character is done via gear in the game, there's nothing else after hitting the level cap.

The rub is that when someone progresses faster than you simply because of either an oversight or skewed mechanics is when people become unhappy. Everyone wants a level playing ground, is all I'm saying.

Hell, most of my reply after the initial complaint was a possible solution for it that would equally benefit both playstyles and confer no undue advantage over another in a World environment. I don't see why you're attempting to attack my posts.

I'm sorry all I heard was "QQ I'm a loot whore want free epix"

I'm sorry all I heard was "QQ I'm a loot whore want free epix"

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Didn't bother to read my posts then, I see. Free epics would ruin the damn game, it's the best thing in the world to drop a new boss and have your guild cheering over vent, especially when it's a cockblock boss you've been working on for a while.

I'd expand on my line of thinking more (it's pretty common among raiders who shard drops off First Kills), but it's obvious you only want to troll my posts, so I won't waste the time. I think you should take whatever problem you have with me to the Flame Forum if you feel you need to, as you're setting a lovely example for new members by trolling/flaming me outside of it.

... Didn't bother to read my posts then, I see. Free epics would ruin the damn game, it's the best thing in the world to drop a new boss and have your guild cheering over vent, especially when it's a cockblock boss you've been working on for a while. I'd expand on my line of thinking more (it's pretty common among raiders who shard drops off First Kills), but it's obvious you only want to troll my posts, so I won't waste the time. I think you should take whatever problem you have with me to the Flame Forum if you feel you need to, as you're setting a lovely example for new members by trolling/flaming me outside of it.

PVP and Raid? GG.

... Didn't bother to read my posts then, I see. Free epics would ruin the damn game, it's the best thing in the world to drop a new boss and have your guild cheering over vent, especially when it's a cockblock boss you've been working on for a while. I'd expand on my line of thinking more (it's pretty common among raiders who shard drops off First Kills), but it's obvious you only want to troll my posts, so I won't waste the time. I think you should take whatever problem you have with me to the Flame Forum if you feel you need to, as you're setting a lovely example for new members by trolling/flaming me outside of it.

I have no reason to flame you or take this conversation anywhere but here. I disagree with what you're playing for, and you're contradicting yourself. The problem I have is I've played with people exactly like you. You claim one thing yet your actions show another, and no matter what you just want your loot, you'll lose your friends for it and forget that the game is meant to be played for fun rather than epics. This game turns people into bad things.

Everyone should adopt my policy on gear.

GREENS ROOL.