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Posted 2004-01-22, 01:20 AM in reply to Kuja's post starting "Oh, yeah it sure wouldnt matter......"
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Oh, yeah it sure wouldnt matter... Maybe you heard of school ? You know how children can be to each other. And maybe those things they have to write about family ? "Well me and my 2 father went fishing last week-end" You have any idea how humiliated the kid would be like ? Do you have any idea what kind of horrible life the child would get ? Same sex couples should just be euthanized. It's a psychological disorder and letting them have children would only destroy the kid life.
Well, first of all, they could explain it to the child as 1 being the father and the other being an Uncle or something. The kid doesn't absolutely need to know that his "parents" are a gay couple. When the kid is older, they can reveal that as they see fit. In some ways, it could be similar to bringing up an adopted child in a hetero family...

I never said school would be a wonderful life. I merely said as a younger child, they really wouldn't know the difference. As an older child they might, but then, if they know, they're old enough to think for themselves.
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Posted 2004-01-22, 10:37 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Yeah, I'd just love to wake up in the..."
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Yeah, I'd just love to wake up in the middle of the night to get something to drink and see my one of my parents ass banging the other.
If the couple doesn't have the decency to have sex privately, then they shouldn't have a child anyway. Besides, the same could be said if you were going to get a drink and you saw your dad banging your mom in the ass.

Also, I'm not saying that there aren't homosexual creeps out there, there probably are. But some of you are talking as if all homosexuals are sex-craved indecent maniacs, which isn't true. A lot of homosexuals are actually quite normal. Some you wouldn't even think were gay.

If the child were adopted or born into an actual loving home, with understanding parents who were easy to talk to, I believe that they would thrive there. Life outside the home may be a bit rocky during the adolescent stage, but life inside the home would be like a sanctuary. Hell, the couple could even teach the child a few things to say if they were picked on.
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Posted 2004-01-22, 11:58 AM in reply to Jessifer's post starting "If the couple doesn't have the decency..."
1.should they be aloud to? well it depends... if they are responsible, probably.
2.Is there any advantage? No... i think its a disadvantage... would you like to be adopted, be raised by parents that are the same sex, and go around with them in public, and tell your friends that your parents are gay... it will follow you till you they die... tell who your married to that your parents are gay... then tell his/her family that your parrents are gay....
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Posted 2004-01-22, 04:35 PM in reply to Dar_Win's post starting "1.should they be aloud to? well it..."
Ok, well to put things in a better way, I'd be creeped out seeing my fathers kiss.
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Posted 2004-01-22, 05:24 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Ok, well to put things in a better way,..."
The should be able to do it, but I personally believe that certain things can only be tought by a mother and a father.
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Posted 2004-01-22, 06:01 PM in reply to Jamesadin's post starting "The should be able to do it, but I..."
Kids learn from their parents, and same sex marriage isn't something we want to teach them.
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Posted 2004-01-22, 08:04 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Kids learn from their parents, and same..."
Penny_bags, I can't believe that you don't realize that there isn't any proof that he is a homosexual, are you retarted? Jesus christ, if you watched that interview he himself/himself (micheal jackson) said he/she slept with the children in his/her bed ... Thats fuckign gross, and I agree with K_A we shouldn't treat our children this sort of thing, I mean if you really think about it, its wrong.














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Posted 2004-01-23, 10:42 AM in reply to D3V's post starting "Penny_bags, I can't believe that you..."
You realize that the only reason you're stuck on these sort of opinions is because you didn't grow up being taught that it was okay. Granted...I didn't grow up being taught that it was okay either, but I think it's just fine. So it could all just be a state of mind, I suppose. Hm.
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Posted 2004-01-23, 02:01 PM in reply to Jessifer's post starting "You realize that the only reason you're..."
If everyone in the world were gay, the human race would cease to exist. It's obvious to me that it's wrong.
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Posted 2004-01-23, 03:42 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "If everyone in the world were gay, the..."
Point taken. But the fact is that something like that would never happen. So why worry about the few people who do decide to become gay? IMHO, gays adopting children is a great way to reduce the number of parentless children whose birth parents otherwise didn't want or couldn't provide for gave up for adoption. Granted, there are homosexuals out there who shouldn't have children...But there are also heterosexuals that should never have children.
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Posted 2004-01-23, 04:08 PM in reply to Jessifer's post starting "Point taken. But the fact is that..."
Yeah, and why should we worry about the people who decide to mooch off of other people instead of getting jobs? And why should we worry about the people who murder people? Why should we worry about the people who rape people? Why should we worry about the people who run slave companies across seas? It's fine as long as everyone isn't doing it.
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Posted 2004-01-23, 05:43 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Yeah, and why should we worry about the..."
And since when did being gay have anything to do with any of those?
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Posted 2004-01-23, 06:13 PM in reply to Jessifer's post starting "And since when did being gay have..."
Since I promised Jess I would post something if the topic got to be (a little) popular, here we go..

Being raised in a southern Baptist family, I was taught that homosexuality was wrong, interracial marriage was wrong, women aren't people and should be subservient to their husbands, and other such nonsense.

However, I was a smart child and learned things the way everybody, imho, should: By observation.

Love between two consenting people is a wonderful thing, and it should not matter whether or not it is between two men or two women, a white man and a black women, mexicans and asians, anything. The only objection I could make would be something sick and twisted, like a grown man making a young teen think she loved him, but that isn't quite the point I'm trying to make.

Now, when a man and a woman want children, but are unable due to problems with the reproductive organs, they have several options open to them. Nobody objects when they want to have kids, even if they are bad people.

When a homosexual couple want to have kids, they have fewer options. Both the gays and lesbians can adopt, or the lesbians can get artificially inseminated. But many people immediately object, because they do not think it would be good for the child, even if the people are good.

To make this short, just because they are gay doesn't mean they are bad parents, and just because they are straight doesn't mean they are good parents. Mine certainly weren't good. I would rather have two moms or two dads that were loving and caring than mine, who are very hateful people and only stand me because they consider it their legal responsibility.

I would never deny a persons right to be happy. My best friend is gay, and its terrible that she is going to have to experience such prejudices in life, but I wouldn't want her to get married to some guy she could never be happy with..

Well, I suppose I've rambled long enough, and if I continue I'll lose sight of the original topic..
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