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Posted 2008-06-05, 07:13 PM in reply to -Spector-'s post starting "The "Few" members that he drove off..."
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The "Few" members that he drove off were 10x better members then he will ever be. Losing one OK member and gaining three (or more) great, older members is a sacrifice that I am definitely willing to take.
if we lose people over time and get none then were losing people plus people are just going to the arcade for games so they dont log in and with armorgames and a bunch of others their gaining people while we are
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Posted 2008-06-05, 09:53 PM in reply to jamer123's post starting "if we lose people over time and get..."
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if we lose people over time and get none then were losing people plus people are just going to the arcade for games so they dont log in and with armorgames and a bunch of others their gaining people while we are
Um...what now?

And, Spector, your post seems to indicate that the perma-ban of D3v will result in a return of those we've lost. Is this mere speculation or an educated conclusion?

I somehow missed the harassment he visited upon these members, yet assuming this is truth, I fully support the ban.
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Posted 2008-06-05, 11:00 PM in reply to Vault Dweller's post starting "Um...what now? And, Spector, your..."
It's what will happen, probably. Mjordan, Grav, and I left because of D3v. D3v is gone, I'm back. Mjordan will probably return. Grav is an unknown.
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Posted 2008-06-05, 11:07 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "It's what will happen, probably. ..."
D3V once said that he 'causes trouble to liven this place up'. He just went too far. I'm glad he's gone, because he always trolled and then played innocent when people called him out.

Glad to see you back, K_A.
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Posted 2008-06-06, 06:59 AM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "D3V once said that he 'causes trouble..."
I think I missed something here.. how exactly did D3V drive off three members? Grav left because he said posting on a forum is trivial and immature in his stage of life. How does that correlate with D3V? Sounds like a personal issue to me.

I understand why MJ left (he'll be back), but how did D3V drive off KA? Aren't you a Supreme Moderator here? How can a member cause you to stop posting?

And I REALLY don't agree with the permanent ban. Ban him for a month or two, but permanently over something like this?? Mantralord DDoSed the forums and tried to kill them for good for Christ's sake, and he's still allowed to post here. I'd say that's a way more harsher offense than what D3V did. And no matter what any of you says, D3V was at least 1/4th of the activity here. He made a ton of threads/posts and those in turn generated numerous responses, whether they be good or bad. Fact is, he has helped keep this place running the past couple of months. He's brought numerous ideas to the table on how to help Zelaron and make it more active.

This is the wrong move.
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Posted 2008-06-06, 12:26 PM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "I think I missed something here.. how..."
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This is the wrong move.
Seconded, for the same reasons.
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Posted 2008-06-06, 01:14 PM in reply to sheerx's post starting "Seconded, for the same reasons."
I agree, D3V did bring livelihood into this website. Even if he the mods don't let him come back, I'll post more, since I haven't been posting much lately and Zelaron needs more contributions.
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Posted 2008-06-10, 04:18 PM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "I think I missed something here.. how..."
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I think I missed something here.. how exactly did D3V drive off three members? Grav left because he said posting on a forum is trivial and immature in his stage of life. How does that correlate with D3V? Sounds like a personal issue to me.

I understand why MJ left (he'll be back), but how did D3V drive off KA? Aren't you a Supreme Moderator here? How can a member cause you to stop posting?

And I REALLY don't agree with the permanent ban. Ban him for a month or two, but permanently over something like this?? Mantralord DDoSed the forums and tried to kill them for good for Christ's sake, and he's still allowed to post here. I'd say that's a way more harsher offense than what D3V did. And no matter what any of you says, D3V was at least 1/4th of the activity here. He made a ton of threads/posts and those in turn generated numerous responses, whether they be good or bad. Fact is, he has helped keep this place running the past couple of months. He's brought numerous ideas to the table on how to help Zelaron and make it more active.

This is the wrong move.
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Posted 2008-06-10, 04:30 PM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "bumpage"
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Aside from D3V's rule-breaking: MJ will not be back due to D3V's actions (at least not for perhaps years to come, if ever), and GravitonSurve (who was arguably driven off by D3V) will most certainly never return. !K_A! returned, but others have threatened to leave because of D3V.

It is a fact that D3V has been a contributing member in several ways, but what makes you think he will not repeat his actions and destroy the rest of the community? He is the only contributing (i.e. human) member I have banned since LiveWire.
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