Gun laws?

If college kids in universities like Northern Illinois and Va Tech were permitted to legally carry guns those fucks would not have killed or injured near as many students, better yet if the shooters knew that the students were allowed to carry protection they might not have even tried that shit, just a thought

The second amendment was written long before assault rifles were around. Back then they probably had muskets that were highly inacurate, and pistols that were also inacurate. You couldn't just go mow down a bunch of people at once. At most, you could take out a couple of people if you were really pissed at them.

I'm all for someone being able to have a pistol for personal protection, but there is absolutely no reason for anyone but our national defense and law enforcement to have assault rifles. Personally, I'd rather people not even have pistols, but I would be willing to accept that.

The most common argument I hear is that "guns don't kill people, people kill people" and "guns are just inanimate objects." Does this mean I should be allowed to have bombs too? An assault rifle is pretty comparable to a small bomb in the possible casualties.

Bottom line, it's unnecessary to have anything more than maybe a pistol, and even then they should be highly regulated.

You're living in the fantasy world where the people have nothing to fear from their government, and that if you make guns illegal no one will have them, you don't seem to understand the FACT that if you criminalize gun ownership ONLY criminals will have them, Also you need to understand the FACT that we WILL need to defend ourselves from our own government, which most certainly does NOT have our liberty and best interests in mind all the time, they are power hungry, greedy and corrupt, I usually use the following quote against Fascist and or nationalized health care, "People who are willing to trade liberty for security are deserving of neither" -Winston Churchill Now that is not exact but you should get the point, Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my assault rifle, speaking of national defense, Imagine you are an enemy of the US, would you want to invade a country where it is known that the average citizen is armed, Bottom line is YOU CANNOT TAKE GUNS AWAY FROM CRIMINALS, you can only take them from good people, what sense would it make to do that, and the fact that you seem to think the government is all good and for the people is absurd, the 2nd amendment is likely a reasonn we still hold on the the few original "god given" freedoms that we were promised by the constitution and the bill of rights

Our guns aren't what's stopping the government from imposing a military state. It's the political system itself. If that fails, they will impose a military state if they want, regardless of whether or not we have guns. It's not going to make it harder, or act as a deterrent. They will roll over us if they want to.

I'm all for having guns. It sucks people abuse them but if not with guns then they can use some other means of killing.

Knives? Swords? It doesn't matter. That might work against a single person, but you can't walk into a mall and kill a bunch of people with a knife.

Statistics show that countries with gun restrictions have lower murder rate and equal crime rate. It might not bring the crime rate down, but it does lower the murder rate, which means it is worth it to me.

To each his own. Guns won't be outlawed in this country in my lifetime. You can cite whatever statistics or studies you want, being deprived our guns is distinctly unamerican.

Unamerican... hmm. I think that word is overused. Being "American" doesn't mean the same thing today that it did 200+ years ago... there's just no way it could. When this country began, slavery was okay, and steam power (much less electricity!) had not even been invented yet. Classical economics still worked, and it took 4 months for ships to cross the Atlantic. There were no assault rifles years ago. How can you even compare that system of government to today's?

Knives? Swords? It doesn't matter. That might work against a single person, but you can't walk into a mall and kill a bunch of people with a knife.

KNIVES LINKED TO DARTMOUTH SLAYINGS
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-42982766.html


"There's something in criminology called the valve theory: If you shut off one avenue, another avenue opens up," said Andrew Karmen, a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice. "If it's more difficult to get guns, people might turn to knives."
http://www.galleryofguns.com/shootin...es.asp?id=1829

A convicted killer who died in Folsom prison last month has been linked by DNA tests to the unsolved knife slayings of six people in the East Bay in the 1970s and early '80s, authorities said yesterday.


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...9/MN167984.DTL

Mamoru Takuma, who is standing trial for the murder of eight students in a knife attack at Ikeda Primary School in Ikeda, Osaka Prefecture, said Thursday he had thought often about committing mass murder since his...
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2...6-10024415_ITM

A Ukrainian immigrant accused in the slayings of six relatives was found hanged in his jail cell early today
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-331150.html

'We Did It' letters eyed in NY stabbings
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080307/ap_on_go_co/times_square_blast_letters;_ylt=AtH50Zhu1gHhjkZo_j .uuJ6s0NUE


You could kill a grip of people with a knife, you could walk the isles at wal mart slitting people's throats just as quick as shooting them, hell and not even make a sound.

You could lock a classroom door and start slicing people up, and the people in the next room wouldn't have a clue, hell atleast if you were shooting people many more would be alerted by the noise.

So why not just outlaw all weapons and make a mandatory self-defense course for all?

Oh, in related argument, I read on CNN today that College Students in some school in Texas I believe are pushing for the right to bear weapons in the classroom, I for one find this appalling and hope that nothing gets passed like this, I don't want to have some shithead having the right to have a gun on campus, because after that gets passed the kids will have them in the high schools etc etc. Fuck that.

I often provide this example when stating why I believe we should uphold the constitution in its word for word form and continue the right to bare arms. Its a two part deal so bare with me...

If you make guns illegal, the bad guys will still have them...and there is nothing you or I can do about it because we dont want to go to jail for getting one too in order to defend ourselves.

With guns being legal, I like the idea of being in a location where some madman comes in with a gun waving around killing people. Only because I know their is a real good chance that someone else in their has one too and is probrably a better shot with it than the madman.

It's bear not bare. Don't you know they meant we have the right to own a pair of bear arms?

Okay I know lame joke...