Pulling out of Iraq

Most of our Royal Family has been, or is in the Armed Forces. Yet you don't see Prince William or Prince Harry in Iraq giving the Insurgents the old one two now do you?

And you wouldn't want your Presidents fighting your wars. You'd be absolutely stuffed! It doesn't matter how strong your Army is, with Bush leading it into battle...well, speaks for itself really dunnit?

I'm pretty sure thats why we have generals.... to lead them into battle.

Generals dont lead anyone into battle, its the Captains and Lt. Col.'s that do. Generals just stay back in the safety of the base and plan stuff all day.

edit and by the way my Captain is only 28. And our Lt Col is I think 40 - 45ish

Yeah generals are not what they used to be and besides I for once agree with the Brit on this. I mean fuck I'm the dumbest piece of shit to walk this earth in 5000 years but god damn I think i just might be smarter than Bush and the only thing I'm good at is fighting hence I'm in the army

BTW next time you see someone signing up to join tell them not to cause I hate these new recruits they are dumbasses one guy took his fucking helmet off and started watching a kid play with it and guess what? HIS FUCKING BRAINS GOT BLOWN OUT.

And I vote no because I like fighting.

I think that was on Starship Troopers

No he was from Tangent, Oregon and he took his helmet off and put it on a kid then got shot in the head... a sad case yes? This is why I think we should only let certain people in. Because half of these kids think it's all glory then when they get out here they all hesitate and die.

BTW yes i think there was a part where a guy took off his helmet in the middle of a combat exercise and got killed.

We've seen what happens when politicians run wars. World War 2. What would happen if the generals had gotten to do everything they wanted? Well, I for one hope my ancestors would have bought VW stock if that would have happened .

WWII is a bad example.

Hitler was doing pretty well for himself (and managed to get the army doing amazing things) until people began intervening. France just laid down for them, as did Poland, and Austria, and Czech Republic...but then again, much of that was due to the Blitzkrieg tactics.

Russia managed to beat the Germans with their weather. And all the Allies brought an end to the Tyrany.

Most of the war was fought by politicians doing things, and it all turned out right in the end.

I'd say a good example would be the Vietnam war, with Nixon (was it?). But then again I'm no great for American history.

WWII is a bad example. Hitler was doing pretty well for himself (and managed to get the army doing amazing things) until people began intervening. France just laid down for them, as did Poland, and Austria, and Czech Republic...but then again, much of that was due to the Blitzkrieg tactics. Russia managed to beat the Germans with their weather. And all the Allies brought an end to the Tyrany. Most of the war was fought by politicians doing things, and it all turned out right in the end. I'd say a good example would be the Vietnam war, with Nixon (was it?). But then again I'm no great for American history.

Too late for me to confirm this but I believe Hitler did a good job at rearming Germany/rallying his people ...but Rommel and others were the real reason behind some of the better military victories. I know Hitler fought in WW1 but I don't think he achieved any great rank and got any valuable experience? Not sure.

In WWI he was just a footsoldier. Used to run about the trenches giving out messages.

When WWII came round he wanted more trenches because he loved it! And he did an amazing job at re-arming Germany, but he did have help. I don't know if you've heard of a German company called Krupp Works, but they supplied Hitler with all his weapons from the 1930s until the end of the war.

Krupp Works, and Faber were two of the biggest businesses in Germany, and they poured millions of Marks into the Nazi party. As did other companies. Henry Ford did too!

But, yeah, Hitler headed the whole thing. He did have his people doing all the dirty work, but he headed the whole 'operation' - he told everyone what to do, and the people below him interpretted the orders and carried them out in their own ways.

The nazi party was built ford tough.

Anyone who thinks that his generals agreed with him is such a fool actually many of his SS and close friends tried to get him killed because his tactics sucked and his generals thought having those millions of jews around might actually help the war effort either as businessmen or even more soldiers. As a leader of economy Hitler was great but when it came to war he sucked goat nuts and you would never believe what nation put a protection program on him either, because they knew he was making mistakes.