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Posted 2005-09-06, 08:57 PM in reply to kockblocker1's post "ROFL at Kanye"
I didn't laugh :-\
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Posted 2005-09-06, 09:02 PM in reply to Sovereign's post starting "I didn't laugh :-\"
He's an idiot plain and simple, regardless of who Dubya likes or doesnt care about.

This hurricane was not about Bush. The problems are not Bush's fault. Blanco is to blame.




(I hate Bush though...)

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Posted 2005-09-06, 09:07 PM in reply to Adrenachrome's post starting "He's an idiot plain and simple,..."
Adrenachrome said:
This hurricane was not about Bush. The problems are not Bush's fault. Blanco is to blame.
How are the consequences of the hurricane not Bush's fault. If I'm not mistaken, he's the head of our country. Major disasters, such as Katrina, are handed over to the head of our country. As I said before, we knew about this way before it happend. No precautions were taken by the national government.
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Posted 2005-09-07, 12:34 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "How are the consequences of the..."
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How are the consequences of the hurricane not Bush's fault. If I'm not mistaken, he's the head of our country. Major disasters, such as Katrina, are handed over to the head of our country. As I said before, we knew about this way before it happend. No precautions were taken by the national government.
Deja vu anyone? Kinda like we knew 911 was going to happen. Oh that Bush. What a guy.
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Posted 2005-09-07, 02:17 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "How are the consequences of the..."
mjordan2nd said:
How are the consequences of the hurricane not Bush's fault. If I'm not mistaken, he's the head of our country. Major disasters, such as Katrina, are handed over to the head of our country. As I said before, we knew about this way before it happend. No precautions were taken by the national government.
Because the Governer didn't ask for the support.

I wish Bush was dead man.. but it's not his fault.

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Posted 2005-09-07, 06:59 PM in reply to Adrenachrome's post starting "Because the Governer didn't ask for the..."
Adrenachrome said:
Because the Governer didn't ask for the support.

I wish Bush was dead man.. but it's not his fault.
Hey dipshit, check your facts.
http://gov.louisiana.gov/2005%20%20p...aneKatrina.pdf

August 26th.
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Posted 2005-09-07, 09:42 PM in reply to khwiii's post starting "Hey dipshit, check your facts. ..."
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Hey dipshit, check your facts.
http://gov.louisiana.gov/2005%20%20p...aneKatrina.pdf

August 26th.

Oh come now, You don't seriously think I didn't know she declared the state of emergency do you? That's what that is, did you notice that?

How about where is states:
"SECTION 2: The state of Louisiana=s emergency response and recovery program is activated under the command of the director of the state office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness to prepare for and provide emergency support services and/or to minimize the effects of the storm=s damage."

Which in case you failed to read it, explains that the State services will be enacted. No where in this document you so proudly posted does it show any evidence what so ever that the federal government will be involved.


She was still required to request further assistance. dipshit

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Posted 2005-09-07, 09:50 PM in reply to Adrenachrome's post starting "Oh come now, You don't seriously think..."
I am backing Adrenachrome on this one (not calling anyone a dipshit though... haha).

The Presidents hands were definitely tied. The only reasonable thing to support him acting faster is saying that it was one of those times in history where rules just had to be broken and everyone would accept that, and following them is a lame cop out. I disagree with that here though, considering the society we live in.
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Posted 2005-09-08, 04:44 AM in reply to Adrenachrome's post starting "Oh come now, You don't seriously think..."
Alright, let's go.

Who can delcare the state of emergency? Yes the President can.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_o..._United_States

How about the fact that Bush's trip to see that area stopped food and supplies from getting in?
http://www.nola.com/weblogs/print.ss...int076556.html

And how about the Homeland Sceurity National Response Plan Set forth in Dec of 2004? It states that, in these "catastrophic" cases, the federal government will operate independently to provide assistance. The NRP also says that, when responding to a catastrophic incident, the federal government should start emergency operations even in the absence of clear assessment of the situation. "A detailed and credible common operating picture may not be achievable for 24 to 48 hours (or longer) after the incident," the NRP's "Catastrophic Annex" states. "As a result, response activities must begin without the benefit of a detailed or complete situation and critical needs assessment."
http://www.dhs.gov/interweb/assetlib...RPbaseplan.pdf

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Posted 2005-09-07, 08:04 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "How are the consequences of the..."
mjordan2nd said:
How are the consequences of the hurricane not Bush's fault. If I'm not mistaken, he's the head of our country. Major disasters, such as Katrina, are handed over to the head of our country. As I said before, we knew about this way before it happend. No precautions were taken by the national government.
That is a less than educated opinion.... in my opinion. Now I don't back Bush, and I am very sympathetic for the hurricane victims. I almost drove across the country by myself to go help, and my family is trying to house victims because my school is taking kids in. Here's just some truths.

It was the mayor's responsibility to evacuate people.

Bush should be doing more to help. That is reasonable. He hates black people or doesnt care about them? Unreasonable.

"He's on vacation" isn't an accurate remark. The president does far more than any of us can know I'm sure. Probably has alot more shit on his plate than any of us know.

People in the area were told repeatedly to build better aqueducts and a better levee or whatever. They were told that if a big hurricane came their city would be underwater. They weren't doing shit about it. Everyone is looking for someone to blame and no one is looking for solutions. This is bullshit.

Sure, we are the richtest country in the world. We should be doing WHATEVER WE HAVE TO in a crisis like this. I agree. However, it should be more on the shoulders of individuals and privately owned companies. There are people dying of thirst and we have FIVE MAJOR BOTTLED WATER COMPANIES??!?! WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING HERE.

All I see is finger pointing with no suggestions.




Also, Kanye West is an ignorant fool. He made a personal judgement of Bush and basically called him racist for no reason. He has no idea what the fuck he talks about. Kanye West is the racist. I am not even going to try to get into this because it's so fucking obvious how wrong he is and if you can't see that I see no reason to argue with you because you are obviously missing something and it's not worth my time. Prove to me that there is validity in Kanye West's arguement and I will eat my words.

Man with escalades and 24 inch rims bithcing about his "poor dying African brothers". Slut please.

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Posted 2005-09-08, 11:54 AM in reply to Penny_Bags's post starting "That is a less than educated..."
Wow Penny Bags. I was going to write a response... but you seem to have taken the words straight from my mouth. And what's more, negative comments about race probably have more impact coming from a black man than myself.

One thing that caught my attention mjordan was your remark that four days is an inadequate response time, and that we can fly 10,000 men overseas in six hours. What you didn't think about, was that... well for one it's not a six hour trip. Two, when they take their trip to the Middle East, those soldiers probably took a week or more to prepare their equipment, ready themselves, and do any other necessary preparation to deploy. Troops deploying to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina aren't immune to the deployment process. Not to mention, they probably did a wheel convoy, plus the fact that a flood of such immense proportions is not a normal situation for the National Guard. I'm not sure what you wanted these people to do. Should they have been on standby with everything all ready to go, with C-130s and parachutes ready to drop from the sky? You're nuts if you think any armed forces could respond to such an emergency situation that quickly. (Except the airforce, they can bomb somethings that far away and that quickly, if you please)

Yes, they probably could have prepared before the Hurricane hit, but I don't think that anyone really predicted the devastation that was reaped across the state of Louisiana. Obviously the citizens who were given the evacuation order either didn't realize the risk, or didn't care about their own lives enough to evacuate.

Yes, Bush is reponsible for a lot of hindering things that happen to this country, but he is not responsible for the large scale devastation caused by this natural disaster. The Governor of Louisiana, the Mayor of New Orleans, and the individual cops who walked off the job and didn't take leadership, and the citizens who did not evacuate as ordered by their government, take the heaviest blame for this disaster.
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Posted 2005-09-08, 01:31 PM in reply to S2 AM's post starting "Wow Penny Bags. I was going to write a..."
They couldn't predict the devastation the was going to occure? I think the fact that it was the highest number we have to measure a hurricane with would have told someone somthing.
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Posted 2005-09-08, 01:33 PM in reply to Kaneda's post starting "They couldn't predict the devastation..."
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They couldn't predict the devastation the was going to occure? I think the fact that it was the highest number we have to measure a hurricane with would have told someone somthing.
Is there a crayon in your brain?
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Posted 2005-09-08, 02:05 PM in reply to S2 AM's post starting "Wow Penny Bags. I was going to write a..."
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Wow Penny Bags. I was going to write a response... but you seem to have taken the words straight from my mouth. And what's more, negative comments about race probably have more impact coming from a black man than myself.

One thing that caught my attention mjordan was your remark that four days is an inadequate response time, and that we can fly 10,000 men overseas in six hours. What you didn't think about, was that... well for one it's not a six hour trip. Two, when they take their trip to the Middle East, those soldiers probably took a week or more to prepare their equipment, ready themselves, and do any other necessary preparation to deploy. Troops deploying to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina aren't immune to the deployment process. Not to mention, they probably did a wheel convoy, plus the fact that a flood of such immense proportions is not a normal situation for the National Guard. I'm not sure what you wanted these people to do. Should they have been on standby with everything all ready to go, with C-130s and parachutes ready to drop from the sky? You're nuts if you think any armed forces could respond to such an emergency situation that quickly. (Except the airforce, they can bomb somethings that far away and that quickly, if you please)

Yes, they probably could have prepared before the Hurricane hit, but I don't think that anyone really predicted the devastation that was reaped across the state of Louisiana. Obviously the citizens who were given the evacuation order either didn't realize the risk, or didn't care about their own lives enough to evacuate.

Yes, Bush is reponsible for a lot of hindering things that happen to this country, but he is not responsible for the large scale devastation caused by this natural disaster. The Governor of Louisiana, the Mayor of New Orleans, and the individual cops who walked off the job and didn't take leadership, and the citizens who did not evacuate as ordered by their government, take the heaviest blame for this disaster.
These statements are all correct.
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