Heaven und Hell

I actually predicted that you'd say "longer sigh," really I did, after all you're the only person queer enough on this message board to do so. Like I said, I have no interest talking to a kid such as yourself. You can keep digging your hole deeper by continuing this fruitless argument, or you could just keep quiet while you're behind.

Admins if you want you can go ahead and remove this thread, this kid's obviously too adamant and stubborn to debate anything. I will respond no further to your pathetic and somewhat childish argument, so I guess you can get your last laugh in if you wish.

::Bows Gracefully::

There's actually quite a few people who'd say: *Longer Sigh* and launch into a rebuttal of the person aboves post. Root through all the old threads where's there's arguments like this one and you'll find similar things to: *sigh* *longer sigh*.

Also you don't have the authority to ask the admins to remove the thread (or the super mods or regular mods for that matter) as it isn't even your thread! It's Kagom's choice, or the mods/super mods/admins choice if the thread gets thrown off topic too much.

There's actually quite a few people who'd say: *Longer Sigh* and launch into a rebuttal of the person aboves post. Root through all the old threads where's there's arguments like this one and you'll find similar things to: *sigh* *longer sigh*. Also you don't have the authority to ask the admins to remove the thread (or the super mods or regular mods for that matter) as it isn't even your thread! It's Kagom's choice, or the mods/super mods/admins choice if the thread gets thrown off topic too much.

Heh really? It seemed to be the dumbest thing someone could respond with in my opinion. It seems too predictable. I don't really mead through old posts, you understand.

I don't have authority to ask? So far as I see I have authority to do whatever I please within the bounds of the board itself(as I found out this doesn't include posting nude pics ).

I'm agnostic, just like MJordan. I like to think everything is possible. Heh who knows..Maybe we are the ignorant ones for not blindly believing in god the way the bible/quran/tora/whatever tells us to. Maybe when we die we'll get to god and he'll be like; yo man, wtf, why didnt you read that holy book and praise me, I put it all over the place, are you fucking blind?! Or maybe nothing will happen and life is just meaningless.

I dont really care anymore and I've grown tired of religious debates, especially the ones that will clearly go nowhere because neither party will admit there's even the slightest possibility for the other to be right, no matter what evidence you may present to them. Like those that are usually on TV, I hate those.

If it's your thread, then yes, you do have the authority to ask. But when it isn't yours and you've become bored with it because people are doing what they always do then you do not have the authority to tell anyone to close the thread. That, as I have said, is up to Kagom if he thinks the thread has served it's full purpose, or the members of staff who might think the thread has also served its purpose or gone off-topic too much.

If, say, you were a manager somewhere and a trainee came up to you and ordered you to make a cup of tea for them, maybe even heat up and butter a couple of crumpets or scones, you wouldn't say yes let alone listen to them as they don't have the authority to do that. If, however, the owner or administrators of the company asked you to do the same thing for them you'd do it instantly.

I don't have authority to ask? So far as I see I have authority to do whatever I please within the bounds of the board itself(as I found out this doesn't include posting nude pics).

You have authority as a junior member to do some things, just as some have that of a member and others have it of a senior member. If you don't have the respect of other members, then there's no point in having any authority. Asking members who have been here longer than you, and have a lot more respect than you to close a thread that isn't even yours won't help you get any respect. Nor will your request be carried out.

It's all a question of authority. In this case you don't have it, so don't try and use it. You may be able to produce works of art with words but, as you have shown us, you can be arrogant as well.

And so what if it was predictable? If some things in life weren't predictable then how on earth would anyone have a sense of security? There are people that live their lives on predictable actions, and they are doing just fine. You don't necessarily need to point out every little predictable thing.

You don't think this thread has served its full purpose? No one is talking about Heaven and Hell any longer, that seemed to actually end on the first page. THAT was predictable, no one wants to talk about it really, it's a topic that's been brought about too many times. What this thread had transpired to was a pointless argument between me and Pr0xy.

AGAIN, I didn't order an administrator or moderator to close the forum, and in fact I didn't directly ask them. It was even more like a suggestion than anything, and AGAIN I point out a freedom of speech that I have in this General Conversation forum. Perhaps you should read the three basic rules laid down by Sovereign before you come in here acting all high and mighty as if your Senior Rank endows you with some sort of authority. You don't impress me simply because you've posted on www.zelaron.com longer than I have. When you're dead is that something people are going to look back and recognize, you're 2500 some odd posts on www.zelaron.com Lenny? Do you think you're a great individual? When you're laying on you're deathbed are you going to look back with pride because of the countless hours you devoted to Zelaron and your Senior Membership? You don't impress me Lenny. I know Pr0xy says I'm just trying to bust people down, but I'm not doing so. In your case, I'm only bringing you down to my level. You're idea of yourself on this forum is heavily inflated. I may be new to www.zelaron.com Lenny, but I'm not new to this world, I'm not new to the internet, and I'm definitely not new to forums, so get with the program.

Oh and look Tyrant brings the topic back to discussion anyways, so I guess there is no reason to remove this thread. However Lenny, you still need to put some thought into yourself.

Put some thought into myself, eh? What a nice phrase.

What this thread had transpired to was a pointless argument between me and Pr0xy.

...surrounded by other people staying on topic and answring Kagoms question.

You may not have ordered them to but you certaintly gave them permission to close it:

Admins if you want you can go ahead and remove this thread

Since when have people been allowed to give permission for something that is not there's to be removed from public view, let alone closed? Maybe they should remove certain posts instead.

Perhaps you should read the three basic rules laid down by Sovereign before you come in here acting all high and mighty as if your Senior Rank endows you with some sort of authority.

Let's see...

1. Serious Topics...yep, this is a serious topic.

2. Try to keep post on-topic...I guess we've gone a bit off topic here...but no-one is actually answering our posts to each other so that can't be too bad.

3. NO FLAMING!...we're not flaming each other. This is merely an argument between two people.

I know number 2 talks about people's opinions, but acting as if you have the authority to get someone to remove a thread is not an opinion.

before you come in here acting all high and mighty as if your Senior Rank endows you with some sort of authority. You don't impress me simply because you've posted on www.zelaron.com longer than I have. When you're dead is that something people are going to look back and recognize, you're 2500 some odd posts on www.zelaron.com Lenny?

I'm not looking to impress. I'm on here because I want to have a good time. If I wanted to impress then I would have done something about it in the (nearly) 12 months I have been here.

Do you think you're a great individual? When you're laying on you're deathbed are you going to look back with pride because of the countless hours you devoted to Zelaron and your Senior Membership?

In fact, yes I do think I'm a great individual. I admit, I think a lot of myself. So sue me. It is a dream of mine to become a published author. If I didn't think I was a great individual then I wouldn't even bother to try and fulfill my dreams. If you want others to think you are good (not necessarily great) then the first step is thinking of yourself as good.

By the time I die, Zelaron will probably be a forgotten memory. No matter how successful it may become, there is a very small chance that Zelaron will be around in 60-odd years. If it still is then it won't matter much to me as I'll be suffering from old age memory loss.

You don't impress me Lenny.

Again with the impressing, geez.

I know Pr0xy says I'm just trying to bust people down, but I'm not doing so.

Sorry?!

*cough*

after all you're the only person queer enough on this message board to do so. Like I said, I have no interest talking to a kid such as yourself. You can keep digging your hole deeper by continuing this fruitless argument, or you could just keep quiet while you're behind.

*cough*

You're idea of yourself on this forum is heavily inflated.

How nice of you to notice...

I may be new to www.zelaron.com Lenny, but I'm not new to this world, I'm not new to the internet, and I'm definitely not new to forums, so get with the program.

I wouldn't say 6 months is new to anywhere. As for new to anything else, why would I think you are? Everyone on this board is over 13 years old.

We have a program which we have to follow now?!

How nice picking a persons post to pieces. You ought to try it sometime, it's quite a good stress relief excercise.

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As for the topic...I've already stated my beliefs and cant really add anything to them apart from the fact that I don't believe in any type of afterlife (including reincarnation) as I just cant believe it can happen. I usually look towards science for answers and levae religion to the religious people.

So you think because you make a longer post that makes you a better author? Longer stories aren't always best. The best stories are the ones that contain meaning. I don't know why you continue to argue about the thread closing. Thank you for quoting me, that makes me feel much better.

Admins if you want to go ahead and remove this thread

If you're only going to argue something pointless, then there's no point in arguing at all. I obviously was granting no one permission. A point from your writing: Look at who the quote came from. A member, Junior Member if you like. Not a webmaster giving permission to an admin. It obviously wasn't an order. It was a suggestion to the admins/moderators to remove the thread that had turned sour. I won't even acknowledge that again, because it's been settled, you just keep dipping your hand in and swirling it around.

I don't get stressed, and I don't spend a long time requoting someone trying to find a flaw in an otherwise strong argument.

When you get a book published let me know, I'll order a copy.

I actually predicted that you'd say "longer sigh," really I did, after all you're the only person queer enough on this message board to do so. Like I said, I have no interest talking to a kid such as yourself. You can keep digging your hole deeper by continuing this fruitless argument, or you could just keep quiet while you're behind. Admins if you want you can go ahead and remove this thread, this kid's obviously too adamant and stubborn to debate anything. I will respond no further to your pathetic and somewhat childish argument, so I guess you can get your last laugh in if you wish. ::Bows Gracefully::

Don't ya just love it when arrogant pricks show up?

I have alot more to say. But it seems that you are trying to end the discussion (Not argument) because you have nothing to add to it. If that is the case, it is fine by me but DON'T EVER act like you are better than someone else, or degrade them, because their views are different from yours and you are too close minded to understand them.