Gonna take a *brake*

Funny you should say that. However, I do have to put this up for Dr. Geekstar and his horrid English

why are you acting like that against me ???? i never harmed you, no, i even defended you multiple times

lol, I'm jez toyin' wif ya.

Don't get upset :P

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

We need to get better English teachers for all these people.

I have a hard time defending you kagom when you act like a total a****** to someone because they have trouble with english. I am really sick of some of you people (Not directed at anyone in particular) with your insulting comments and constant making fun of people. His english is bad; so what, Fuck you for making fun of him for it more then once or twice, to a point where hes considering "posting less" which often times (but maybe not in this case) means just leaving zelaron all together. Its like a damn school yard and you guys pick on the people that are easiest and dont fight back or fight back poorly; the ones you deem different whether because of a language or sexuality and you redicule them constantly.

I try to at least semi-help kagom with the situation and he turns around and starts bashing on the next target; to try to fit in or go with everyone else? Some of you people need to grow up. I would much rather get rid of a well known member with 1000+ posts that a lot of people like and a long history who refuses to stop making fun of people like this then to see geekster or someone else like him leave because people are insulting him too much. We should be making people want to stay, try to make zelaron a bigger community and some of you just want to get rid of people you dont deem worthy. And if you are going to reply or tell me "Well I was just kidding" then you better make sure you have not made fun of him/them more then once or twice because after that its not kidding anymore. He obviously dosent like some of what you people are saying, so much so that he says he will take a break from posting because you guys dont like him posting too much? Also I know he went on a posting spree at one time but I know other members that have so dont even try to use that excuse as your hating reason because most of you just talk about how bad his english is. I am not even going to go into how inappropriate pennys comments were if what geekster is saying is true because that is a huge topic on its own (joking or not).

Hes sorta doing this not to make you guys mad at him anymore (Actually doing something FOR you guys after all this?) (taking some time off?), and here you are fucking happy about it, no apologys at all. God that really pisses me off, from what I read and my impressions of this situation. Just reading his posts, the replies to it and his replies some of you guys are such fucking assholes. And thats not even the beggining because a lot of people are just as bad but have not posted in this thread yet. The worst part is, I think the majority of the Zelaron regulars are like this although I am not certain, a great deal of them are. You guys never know when enough is enough. I dont care if the majority of the people here like making fun of geekster and I am the only one who finds it objective because I can see the wrongness in this; I can see how he sees this situation; so I dont care what the majority opinon is, if the majority opinon here is to be an asshole and hope he leaves because his english annoys you then I say fuck you.

I said this before, Joking is fine in the flame forum and in moderation but when someone starts taking it seriously then stop doing it, what is this some kind of ego boosting contest to see who can put someone down the most? I mean once you see they are not insulting you back anymore, where is the fun? Its just cruel after that. Thing is I dont know how some of you can even help it because this goes on constantly in real life as well whether it be at work or at a school of some sort.

HOLY SHIT.

This is the most i've seen penguin post in.... forever!!!1

BRAVO!

Well said, Pongo.

I want to say that you are right. I really was being an asshole to Dr. Geekstar. (I sent him an apology) The first time I was picking on him, then the "we need more English teachers" comment was just plain mean. I really shouldn't just jump the bandwagon, I already know how it feels to be in Dr. Geekstar's place. So this is also an official apology in the public's eye.

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

The thing is, I can handle picking on people. I dont' do it much because I was teased growing up and I know how it can really hurt. I should've known much better.

Picked on? Hardly, or at least not enough that I was any different then anyone else. Did you even Read my post or did you just read the parts you wanted to?

I said joking was fine to a certain extent. There is a difference between a joke or two, and insulting someone to a point where they leave Zelaron. If trying to keep as many members as possible as Content as possible is "love 101" to you then I guess that's what I am saying. Or maybe you have a different view on what this forum is about and what would be considered success for this forum. I don't know whether you did not read my post or did not comprehend entirely what I was saying but your entire post/view is already addressed in my first reply and now I am posting this to further make you understand.

How much more basic can I get?

Joking = Fine
Insulting = Fine sometimes
Insulting to a point where people start taking it seriously / leaving Zelaron = Not fine

Well, see ya when I can Geekstar.

I just read the whole thread (was playing tennis for an hour, after i woke up)

I don't really care if people laugh at me and joke about my english and that stuff. But if i fight back i probably get loser'd again or people get mad again because i flamed/insulted them. Ruining my/kagom's threads (the story-game) isnt funny too, it took me like 30 minutes to make up the rules, post the story etc.

The main reason why i wont post that much in future IS because some people don't like it.... or you think im going to be playing tennis whole days ??

And whats the point in PM'ing everyone the same thing

thanks to pinguin for explaining the whole thing. (im not planning to leave zelaron, im having fun... most of the time)

edit: ill be back in 30-60 minutes
edit2: back

Beautiful, except the fact you tell us not to make fun of Geekstar, then go on to say we're assholes three times, tell us we need to grow up, and essentially call us cowards. Isn't this exactly what you said we shouldn't be doing? Yeah, I thought so.

Fuck us for finding him annoying, eh? What do you do when something is annoying the unholy living FUCK out of you? Smile nicely and say "it's ok"? I highly doubt it, and if you do you have problems expressing anger. Though, reading that last post I'm pretty sure you can express anger just fine.

Last time I checked, getting made fun of was part of life that everyone has to deal with. You're trying to pussify this forum and turn it into some happy-go-lucky fruity bullshit where everyone gets along and lives happily ever after, FUCK THAT. That's what Govteen was made for. If the real world was like you're trying to make this place, I would probably be ruling the world because no one has the balls to do anything except whine and cry when someone opresses them.
Who the hell are you to say when we are/are not joking? Do you know what's going through our mind when we post? FUCK NO! Until you gain telepathic powers you can't tell us or anyone else what we're thinking.

He isn't doing this for us, he gave one (1) reason for a decrease in posting that had to do with us, and even if he wasn't mocked for his English/stupid posts he would still be posting less, due to the other reasons. Why the hell should we apologize for being annoyed with someones posting habits? We aren't fucking perfect, we get annoyed and show it. Got a problem with it? Fuck you.

If you believe most of the regulars are like that, shouldn't that tell you something? Going by ratios, most of the real world is like that as well. We're not fucked up, you are.


EDIT: First impressions are everything, his was shitty and first impressions are a bitch. Eventually it will probably be forgotten, but not unless he changes his posting habits. Same with Kagom, though it may not have been a first impression, coming out of the closet is naturally going to stick out more than anything else he's done.

I have the ultimate solution for you. U simply put your hand over your eyes every time u see geekster's post and scroll down the screen. Wow for all the bitching that really doesn't seem that hard.....

It's the principal of it. Oh, and excuse me for confronting problems, I was under the impression that it actually got things accomplished. Oh, wait, IT DOES!

These people honestly don't seem to understand how that works. I know, because I didn't

Beautiful, except the fact you tell us not to make fun of Geekstar, then go on to say we're assholes three times, tell us we need to grow up, and essentially call us cowards. Isn't this exactly what you said we shouldn't be doing? Yeah, I thought so.

I have told people not to do stuff like this before. Some people dont listen. And in case you did not read my post I was not refering to you or anyone else, it was not a "flame" directed at anyone in particular. You can only take offense if you want to take offense. And like I also said, insulting and joking is fine once or twice but it should not be done to a point where people take it seriously / want to quit.

Fuck us for finding him annoying, eh? What do you do when something is annoying the unholy living FUCK out of you? Smile nicely and say "it's ok"? I highly doubt it, and if you do you have problems expressing anger. Though, reading that last post I'm pretty sure you can express anger just fine.

Not for finding him annoying but for thinking you are any more important to this forum then he is that you or someone else can say 'well I dont like him he should leave' when he in fact can say the same thing. You can IGNORE HIM?

Last time I checked, getting made fun of was part of life that everyone has to deal with. You're trying to pussify this forum and turn it into some happy-go-lucky fruity bullshit where everyone gets along and lives happily ever after, FUCK THAT. That's what Govteen was made for. If the real world was like you're trying to make this place, I would probably be ruling the world because no one has the balls to do anything except whine and cry when someone opresses them. Who the hell are you to say when we are/are not joking? Do you know what's going through our mind when we post? FUCK NO! Until you gain telepathic powers you can't tell us or anyone else what we're thinking.

Again, you are not getting it. Main point = Do not make other people leave Zelaron. Lets say there are two people geekster and someone else, and you hate them both and you flame them to a point where they quit. Wouldent it of been Better for Zelaron if I banned you before either of them left? That would make more sense and Zelaron would have one more member then it did before. Also, what does the thoughts going through your head have to do with ANYTHING where the heck did that come from? I read what geekster posted and how people reacted and got the impressions that were portrayed. Some of that above quote makes little sense and I have trouble replying to it.

He isn't doing this for us, he gave one (1) reason for a decrease in posting that had to do with us, and even if he wasn't mocked for his English/stupid posts he would still be posting less, due to the other reasons. Why the hell should we apologize for being annoyed with someones posting habits? We aren't fucking perfect, we get annoyed and show it. Got a problem with it? Fuck you.

Try the ignore feature. Also, although it was one reason, it was the main reason and anyone who has any shred of intelligence might of picked that up.

If you believe most of the regulars are like that, shouldn't that tell you something? Going by ratios, most of the real world is like that as well. We're not fucked up, you are.

Oh? I will also add that "We aren't fucking perfect" tot hat as well since it applies. So what, you are not perfect, you should at least strive to be closer to perfection. I have made my point numerous times in Every reply so far and you ignore that and I have to keep restating it. There is a way to ignore people and bashing is alright sometimes but not all the time.

It's blatantly obvious you were talking to Penny and myself and the very least. Kickass, you're trying to take away mine another peoples rights to express ourselves so he can do the same, does that make any sense at all?

FUCK NO.Are you stupid or....? I never said I was more important than anyone. I'm saying he annoys me, so I'm expressing that. Humans have that feature, you should try it out sometime.


Let's see....considering people have been banned sheerly for the fact that they annoy people, that makes about as much sense as your first statement. Errr, Penguin. You're setting a limit on "joking". You claim after a couple jokes, we're not joking about it anymore. You're essentially telling us what we're thinking.

I'm sorry I don't ignore my problems, I have a set of balls. You may want to invest in a pair sometime, they come in handy for issues such as this. The main reason eh? I'm pretty sure it's a good thing then, since it's going to get him out playing tennis and excercising, all in all making him a healthier person. What do you know, I'm actually helping him out!

Perfection is impossible to attain, there is no set definition for it. It varies form person to person, so why should I try to attain something that is impossible? I'm perfectly happy with myself right now, so that's how I'm staying. If you want me to change that, you're being no better than you are claiming we are.

Your point is complete bullshit, Penguin. You're telling us to change so he doesn't have to, which i previously stated.