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Posted 2003-09-16, 05:53 PM in reply to Raziel's post "Battle! Dante vs. Squall"
A true portriat of Dante. Also a good point on how he wouldn't charge blindly into a battle. Here is my idea.

They stare at each other. Both cool and calculating, trying to figure each other's weakness. Dante pulls out his Sparda. Seeing it, Squall instantly unsheaths the Lion Heart. They look at each others blades, each considering the power and weaknesses of their opponent's blade.

They begin to circle each other. Dante quickly jumps into the air and pulls out one of his gunns. He starts firing at Squall. Squall upon seeing Dante leap instantly prepares for an attack. Seeing Dante move his hand to pull out the gun, he moves swiftly. Dante pulls out the gun and fires only to discover Squall is gone. He falls to the ground, staring around.

"Look behind you."

Dante looks behind him. Nothing.

"RETARD!"

He looks up to see falling from the sky. He hits Dante's chest and pushes him to the ground. Dante falls and Squall leaps backwards. He stares at Dante.

"Smart..." Dante mutters.

"Yeah I thought so too." Squall says.

"But its over." Dante gets to his feet and begins jumping around and around. Squall tried to follow him, but he couldn't keep up with the blur that was Dante. He kept doing this for two minutes. Then...

"NOW DIE!!" He stops suddenly right next to Squall and shoots him 3 times. Squall staggers back in pain. His life flashed before his eyes. But then, the power... The unbeatable power that all people feel when near death. It gives him strength beyond strength. He lifts the blade and charges Dante. He continously slashes Dante. Unfortuanately, no ending.

Dante falls backward in pain. But the near-death Squall falls too. It seems that the one who can stand will live. Dante begins to get to his feet. Squall seeing this feels the power once more.

"Its do or die..." he says. He charges Dante again. This time
LIONHEART


Battered and bleeding but alive, Squall wals away.

Oh and Shinto, Limit Breaks in FFVIII happen when near death.

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Posted 2003-09-16, 06:30 PM in reply to Raziel's post "Battle! Dante vs. Squall"
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Posted 2003-09-16, 06:30 PM in reply to Raziel's post "Battle! Dante vs. Squall"
Oh sweet. You are trying to say that Dante didn't even use his sword in this battle.

Just by the firearms, Dante cannot take Squall to the state of "near-death". Unless Squall stands still and let Dante to release the fully charged Grenadegun devil shot, which is unlikely.

To be honest, I've never seen Dante fell to the ground in a battle. He always regains balance right when he makes contact to the ground level, or Air Hike in the air.

By the way Shinto, Dante never gets angry in battle. He once got pissed by Mundus, the last boss, but only because Mundus has insulted his mother. And when Dante DOES get pissed...it's not very pretty. You don't want to see Dante in his Devil Mode with Sparda.

Also, even though I highly doubt the possiblity of breaking either Sparda or Alaster, some of you are forgetting the Ifrit gaunlets. The really close-ranged melee weapon, also capable of firing Meteor.

Magma drive can just knocks his opponent flying in the air and finishes him off with the Ebony and Ivory. Inferno is the most devastating attack that Dante could use. He can use it when he's in the air, (Usually invisible because of Rolling Blaze, as he raises) and delivers a punch in to the ground burning everything around him.

One thing to keep in mind...Dante is not just Swords and Guns. He has different combos and moves, too. Some of you just make Dante look too weak because he just slashes, while Squall has limit breaks.

P.S. Dante doesn't talk when he's fighting. He does it ONLY when he taunts, (he doesn't attack when the enemies have fallen, usually. At least I don't.) But in the cut-scenes, Dante would talk when battle begins, and when it ends.

@Raziel:
Okay..no GFs. I thought I'd give Squall to use the GFs which belongs to him right at the beginning.


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Posted 2003-09-16, 06:38 PM in reply to Raziel's post "Battle! Dante vs. Squall"
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Posted 2003-09-16, 06:57 PM in reply to Raziel's post "Battle! Dante vs. Squall"
Squall has a good combo of strength and speed. He would be able to dodge most Dante's attacks. The ones that are able to hit him will hurt. He's start to die and BAM its over. Dante is all show. Jumping, charging his stupid weapon. Squall will run and cut his fucking head off. Dante is just a pussy. Squall has Lionheart. Dante has his sword, and combos. Squall's main powers are gone, but his true power is still available. Dante is nothing. NOTHING

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Posted 2003-09-16, 07:02 PM in reply to Raziel's post "Battle! Dante vs. Squall"
yOUR RIGHT ABOUT THAT KUJA.
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Posted 2003-09-16, 07:04 PM in reply to Raziel's post "Battle! Dante vs. Squall"
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Posted 2003-09-16, 07:04 PM in reply to Raziel's post "Battle! Dante vs. Squall"
Dante has more brain and power than you think, actually. He can stand still with 3 energy arrows impaled through him. He has demonic power in him.

I like both characters, and I hold no hatred to either of them. I didn't say Squall would slash his sword aimlessly, but there is always a possiblity to dodge such attacks.

I've never said Dante would jump and in the air and shoot, and hitting Squall with 50000 bullets. In fact I said most missed. As I've stated, the normal shots from Ebony and Ivory is for charging up Devil Gauge, not for the damage. (They don't do much damage anyway, when not charged.)

You must not forget the Devil Mode, Dante doesn't even need to have his life bar taken down to anything in order to trigger it. He can raise his Devil Gauge simply by Taunting, (see why I make him taunt so much?) and attacking.

In Devil Mode, Dante has HP recovery, Higher Speed/Damage/Defense, and different moves. As I've said, he has demonic power in him, and it should not be neglected.


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Posted 2003-09-16, 07:12 PM in reply to Raziel's post "Battle! Dante vs. Squall"
But, what if he DOESN'T GO INTO DEVIL MODE??? He doesn't stand a chance without that. Squall probably would kill him before he had a chance.

I think we've discussed all the issues and made our cases. No one else is gonna say anything useful. Close this thread and make your decision.
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Posted 2003-09-16, 07:20 PM in reply to Raziel's post "Battle! Dante vs. Squall"
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Dante is just a pussy. Squall has Lionheart. Dante has his sword, and combos. Squall's main powers are gone, but his true power is still available. Dante is nothing.
Have you ever played Devil May Cry 1 in Hard or Dante Must Die mode? You are sadly mistaken if you think that Dante is nothing. What you're doing here is saying, Squall's powerful and Dante is nothing.

But how so? Because Squall has his lovely Lion Heart? And Dante has..."swords and combos" as you so lightly phrase them. Alaster, Ifrit, Sparda, Ebony and Ivory, Shotgun, Grenade gun, Nightmare-Beta. Those are the arsenal he poccesses.

Even without his weapons, Dante can hold himself in a battle. (that's what happens after executing round-trip) With just his bare hands, Dante can do alot. That's power.

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What if he doesn't go into Devil Mode?
The battle would be tougher, but still, he is not nothing. I've never said Squall is nothing, and you know, underestimating your opponent is what you should never do in a battle.

In fact, when Dante is wielding his Sparda, he cannot go into Devil mode, YET he is still VERY powerful. Sparda has speed, power, and range.


P.S. Once he did go into Devil Mode with Sparda, but that shouldn't be applied here.


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Posted 2003-09-16, 07:24 PM in reply to Raziel's post "Battle! Dante vs. Squall"
Kuja`s #1 said:
I think we've discussed all the issues and made our cases. No one else is gonna say anything useful. Close this thread and make your decision.
I'm gonna leave it be for a little while. This thread just suddenly spiked on the activity meter, and I see no reason to cut it short. Besides, I've got work to do at the moment. I'll open the new thread when things slow down.

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Posted 2003-09-16, 07:28 PM in reply to Raziel's post "Battle! Dante vs. Squall"
(sigh) You're not gonna drop this are you? Though we never saw it, Squall who has been trained an elite millitary facillity. Undoubtedly he has learned unarmed combat. Squall is powerful and you take into mind ALL Dante's abillities. Sure he has a shitload but so does Squall. Squall doesn't just have Lion Heart. He has also has alot of abillities, they're just sealed like in Ultamecia's castle. But in battle terms, Squall can with stand great ammounts of pain. He'll kill Dante before Dante can kill him.

Okay Raziel.

I'm done. I'm going to bed. See the thread tommorrow. GO SQUALL!!!!

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Posted 2003-09-16, 07:36 PM in reply to Raziel's post "Battle! Dante vs. Squall"
I know Squall's combat abilities. True, Squall can withstand great ammounts of pain, but I'd assure you that Dante can do the same, if not more.

Dante is not quick-tempered, brainless and careless as some of you has stated. The only time he's charged right into an enemy without thinking twice was the time when he tried to save Trish. Otherwise he is always calm and careful.


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Posted 2003-09-16, 07:45 PM in reply to Raziel's post "Battle! Dante vs. Squall"
Damn, this has probably been the best battle yet. I'm actually having a really difficult time choosing between the two. This is how these battles need to be waged. Great job people, great fucking job!
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Posted 2003-09-16, 09:08 PM in reply to Raziel's post "Battle! Dante vs. Squall"
It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

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Posted 2003-09-16, 09:14 PM in reply to Raziel's post "Battle! Dante vs. Squall"
Well, I have yet to place my vote, and Titus hasn't been on much today. But, with or without a victor decided on, I'm going to be closing this thread in about 30 minutes. If anybody has arguments to post, then do it now, or hold your piece...er...peace.
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Posted 2003-09-16, 09:14 PM in reply to Raziel's post "Battle! Dante vs. Squall"
Well, I'd have to agree that squall would be the victor, just don't feel like retyping everything that has been said.
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Posted 2003-09-16, 09:26 PM in reply to Raziel's post "Battle! Dante vs. Squall"
I don't see how everyone keeps simply saying that Squall is stronger because he has training and the such. Dante is half deamon...

And his arsenal surpasses that of Squall as well... He has a rocket launcher for God's sake.
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Posted 2003-09-16, 09:28 PM in reply to Raziel's post "Battle! Dante vs. Squall"
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Also, Sen. Saying that Squall isn't week, and being soft on him, and giving him credit is also fucking your point up.
If Squall is so weak and everything, Dante won't even BATTLE with him. He won't see him as a worthy opponent and will just humiliate Squall and make Squall flee in embarassment.

What you've been doing is attempting to talk Dante down. Talk. It's rather ignorant to say "DANTE IS NOTHING SQUALL WILL WIN EASY LOL OWN!!!1". I give credits to facts. Squall is a worthy opponent, but in my opinion, Dante would be the last who stand if they are to cross swords.

From what I see in some of the posts, it is "Dante is nothing so Squall wins." That makes a lot of sense. That's like saying, Squall isn't good at all, but, since Dante is nothing, Squall will win by default.

In my argument, I'm trying to point out that both Squall and Dante have the potential. Squall is good, but Dante is better.


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Posted 2003-09-16, 09:30 PM in reply to Raziel's post "Battle! Dante vs. Squall"
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