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What are you wanting to do as a career?
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Posted 2007-09-24, 09:29 AM
What career goals do us Zelaron board members have? What do you want to do? Are you chasing the almighty dollar or do you want to just do something you enjoy?

I'll start off with me. I'm not entirely convinced but I'm moving towards being an Accountant. I figure starting out the pay isn't -amazing- but there's good exit opportunities from public accounting (I'm hoping to work with one of the big 4 firms) to private industry. I won't make shit compared to Titusfied for quite a long time ...but I guess I just really don't need a lot of money? That's a sin I guess .
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Posted 2007-09-24, 09:42 AM in reply to Willkillforfood's post "What are you wanting to do as a career?"
I was going to go into Accounting but figured I'd get sick of the monotonous work. I wanted to be a Sales Rep. or Marketing Schemer for some big company. Hopefully I can latch on to an apprenticeship, and my minor in advertising will help. I'm an idea man, and it would never get boring. Sure, there is a set process for it, but in general the work is different. Starting salary is > 40,000, but I can't quite remember the figure. It's more if you've had an internship/apprenticeship while in school.

Willkill, Titus only makes that much because of the area he is living in. The standard of living is much higher, and sometimes the wages there are 3 to 4 times as much as they are in my town, and most likely in yours.


My goal is to make it so I don't have to worry about money at all, and just do what I want to. I hope to find a nice girl to settle down with and have a couple of kids. That won't happen for awhile; I want to be financially stable.
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Posted 2007-09-24, 09:52 AM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "I was going to go into Accounting but..."
I was considering marketing but it's a lot more competetive. If I have my GPA > 3.5 or so I've got a pretty good shot at getting in a big 4 firm and making 47k a year or so starting out (which is really good for starting out in my area) + a couple grand signup bonus. Actually, the GPA cutoff is 3.2 I believe (for big 4 firms).

The very big con for accounting is lots of unpaid overtime. Also, potentially (depending on the individual) the travel.

The very big pro is the sheer number of jobs out there. You're most likely going to find employment. One or two promotions later you can be making 70-80k+ and will have opportunities to be controllers or assistant controllers at different corporations. If you make it to an audit manager you could be looking at over 100k a year and if you make it to a partner (which is a 2% chance I think) then you'll be making 200k+.

If you're a people person and don't mind working a lot of hours, it has some good opportunities. It won't make you rich unless you're good enough to make it to partner, but at 28 or so potentially making 70-80k a year isn't too bad.

Although it's insanely rare, there are some partners who made it to being partners of the BIG firms from like 30-32 years of age. Do you know how insanely sweet that would be? Making 200k a year living in a low standard of living area like Cincinnati? That'd be insane.
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Posted 2007-09-24, 09:55 AM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "I was going to go into Accounting but..."
I was originally planning to major in philosophy which would mean my career would either be a philosophy professor (requires a Ph.D and makes like $45k a year,) or something that is completely unrelated to philosophy but requires a liberal arts degree of some sort.

Pretty much, I was heading down a dumb career path.

Now I'm planning on majoring in Chemical Engineering. The place I work at currently has like 3 job openings for chemical engineers(not that they will be open 4 years from now, but that just shows that there are chemical engineering jobs here.) If I work here, I'll get to work on lots of cutting-edge stuff, like fuel cells, stuff like that.

Oh, and with a bachelors in Chemical Engineering, I'll start off making ~$70k a year. I think the average is $69k starting out. Compared to making $45k with a Ph.D in philosophy...
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Posted 2007-09-24, 10:00 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "I was originally planning to major in..."
I'm going to see if they will let me work 60-70 hours a week. I just want to save up for a house, pay off my college shit, put some money in the stock market, and try to make money not an object.
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Posted 2007-09-24, 10:26 AM in reply to Willkillforfood's post "What are you wanting to do as a career?"
I have two main options I'm considering.

One: I'm already employed in a really large law firm and advancement is pretty easy at this place as I've already been promoted once. They also have this scholarship program if you go to school majoring in law, which I could easily do since I'm going back next semester. I don't have the desire to be a lawyer but I've been debating on whether or not to become a Paralegal. My mom is one and she's basically supporting 3 (now 2) kids on her own. It's decent pay and I've already got the ball in motion. This could be easily achievable.

Two: I really want to become a Psychiatrist or a Therapist. I really like helping people with their problems and hearing them out if they've got issues. Many people have told me that I should look into this field of work after I've given them my advice on certain situations. I'm a people person, I virtually don't know anybody that has a problem with me. No, I'm not bragging, I just generally get along with all types of people. I think this is what I really want to do, I just need to get a move on.
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Posted 2007-09-24, 10:27 AM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "I have two main options I'm..."
I'd like to go into Neurology.
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Posted 2007-09-24, 10:28 AM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "I'm going to see if they will let me..."
Im majoring in Finance with a minor in accounting. I already applied to a couple financial firms and have interviews set up. If i can get at least 2 companies to hire me, i can minipulate my salary anywheres from 50- 100k. I had an internship this summer and made out fairlly well. I made alot of contactsand many want me to leave the big firms in a few years and go into hedge funds, where there is a real large amont of money to be had. If i make it to hedge funds within 3 years, i could be making 6 figures annual with bonus's, etc well into 500k. So yea, if all goes to plan then ill be well off, but knowing how life is a bitch, ill probably be making somewhere close to 55k.
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Posted 2007-09-24, 11:08 AM in reply to gruesomeBODY's post starting "Im majoring in Finance with a minor in..."
55k in New York? Also, I know a lot of people who are wanting to go into investment firms. Investment bankers laugh at accountants who bitch about 80+ hour work weeks a few months out of the year. Be expecting to work -all of the time- but make good bank doing it IF YOU GET A JOB. You'll be going against some VERY qualified people for investment jobs.

What school are you going to? You'll be going against Ivy leaguers and all that bullshit whose daddy's work at the firms > : (.

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Posted 2007-09-24, 11:09 AM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "I have two main options I'm..."
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I have two main options I'm considering.

One: I'm already employed in a really large law firm and advancement is pretty easy at this place as I've already been promoted once. They also have this scholarship program if you go to school majoring in law, which I could easily do since I'm going back next semester. I don't have the desire to be a lawyer but I've been debating on whether or not to become a Paralegal. My mom is one and she's basically supporting 3 (now 2) kids on her own. It's decent pay and I've already got the ball in motion. This could be easily achievable.

Two: I really want to become a Psychiatrist or a Therapist. I really like helping people with their problems and hearing them out if they've got issues. Many people have told me that I should look into this field of work after I've given them my advice on certain situations. I'm a people person, I virtually don't know anybody that has a problem with me. No, I'm not bragging, I just generally get along with all types of people. I think this is what I really want to do, I just need to get a move on.

All I can say is I hate APA format. Fuckers ...why can't we all just use MLA? Got to do some new fucking stupid format.
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Posted 2007-09-24, 11:12 AM in reply to Willkillforfood's post starting "55k in New York? Also, I know a lot of..."
Why get a job that makes a lot of money but requires you to work 16 hours a day? You'll never have time to spend or enjoy your money.
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Posted 2007-09-24, 11:45 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Why get a job that makes a lot of money..."
My dad was a missile defense contractor for the Air Force, and by the time he retired he was making 250,000/yr plus a pension for 22+ years of service. I could do that but I hate armed forces.
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Posted 2007-09-24, 11:53 AM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "My dad was a missile defense contractor..."
Fuck killing people.
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Posted 2007-09-24, 01:18 PM in reply to Willkillforfood's post starting "All I can say is I hate APA format. ..."
Fuck if I know..
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Posted 2007-09-24, 01:43 PM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "Fuck if I know.."
I'm tentatively majoring in pre-med but I don't know how it'll play out. I'm still a youngin.
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Posted 2007-09-24, 05:59 PM in reply to Willkillforfood's post starting "55k in New York? Also, I know a lot of..."
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55k in New York? Also, I know a lot of people who are wanting to go into investment firms. Investment bankers laugh at accountants who bitch about 80+ hour work weeks a few months out of the year. Be expecting to work -all of the time- but make good bank doing it IF YOU GET A JOB. You'll be going against some VERY qualified people for investment jobs.

What school are you going to? You'll be going against Ivy leaguers and all that bullshit whose daddy's work at the firms > : (.
Investment banking is not my field. I know people that do work in that industry and they never get any sleep. My field is more of financial services with specialization in portfolio diversification and research methods.
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Posted 2007-09-24, 06:49 PM in reply to gruesomeBODY's post starting "Investment banking is not my field. I..."
Ah okay. Got any stock tips for me?
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Posted 2007-09-24, 08:36 PM in reply to Willkillforfood's post starting "Ah okay. Got any stock tips for me? ;)"
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Ah okay. Got any stock tips for me?
Yea but you need to pay me a nice sum.
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Posted 2007-09-24, 08:44 PM in reply to gruesomeBODY's post starting "Yea but you need to pay me a nice sum."
Sure, you make me a million and I'd give you 20% .
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Posted 2007-09-24, 10:39 PM in reply to Willkillforfood's post starting "Sure, you make me a million and I'd..."
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Sure, you make me a million and I'd give you 20% .
Thats a deal. When i get my series 7 license, ull be the first call i make
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